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Thread: The Boldin Catch
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05-14-2020, 09:19 AM #37
Re: The Boldin Catch
Agreed. Joe was daring because he was throwing to Q and prime-Pitta. Those guys were at least going to break it up, and probably come down with it. When Joe saw the back of a DB's helmet, he let it rip, because he could.
But there definitely was a lack of aggressiveness on the deep ball in the following years. Rewatching some of the 2012 games, he is letting it fly to Torrey and Jacoby, and completing a lot of them. Then, suddenly, he started underthrowing all his deep balls. (Like the year when Torrey had an absurd number of PIs.) It wasn't lack of arm strength. Not sure whether it was letting it go too late, or putting too much air under it, or what, but it's almost like he suddenly lost that ability to complete deep passes."Chin up, chest out."
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05-14-2020, 09:36 AM #38
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05-14-2020, 12:05 PM #39Four-eyed Raven
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Re: The Boldin Catch
False. Joe did not have his best season under Kubiak. In fact Joe's Kubiak season was below-average compared with the rest of his career.
Kubes took the deep ball out of Joe's game, made him a checkdown artist, and Joe's yards-per-attempt never recovered.
What was good about Kubiak's offense was its emphasis on the running game. It was good for the Ravens; an excellent fit for the way they want to build their teams, and a sound methodical way to move the ball. Big improvement over the chaos of the Caldwell/Castillo year, and definitely over the sawft Trestman / Marty M style.
But it was a bad fit for Joe. His game never recovered.
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05-14-2020, 12:15 PM #40Four-eyed Raven
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Re: The Boldin Catch
Joe was daring when he was throwing to Mark Clayton and late-prime Todd Heap in 2008. He was daring when he was throwing to Marlon Brown in 2013.
Yep. The pure WCO had Joe thinking too much, and hesitating to make sure. Nerfed him.
Certainly Kubiak's version was better than the Trestman / Marty M years. We at least had the strong running game; and that led to some easy reads for Joe and some nice play-action opportunities. It was a good offense for the team as a whole; great running and productive-enough passing. It just set Joe back a little.
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05-14-2020, 12:25 PM #41
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05-14-2020, 03:12 PM #42
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Re: The Boldin Catch
Well I mean it made no sense to take a guy, who’d just had that playoff run, WHOSE SALARY WAS LESS THAN NINE MILLION FOR THE UPCOMING SEASON, and ask him to TAKE A TWO MILLION DOLLAR PAYCUT. And then, trade him to Harbaugh’s brother for a sixth and tell us that DOSS will replace him? And Pitta will pick up the slack too? That right there told you all you needed to know about how they viewed the offense, compared to the defense.
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05-15-2020, 07:29 AM #46
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Re: The Boldin Catch
Well, I mean they could have at least drafted DeAndre Hopkins or something. I could have gotten behind that.
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05-20-2020, 09:14 AM #48
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