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Thread: This is a seriously good team.
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Re: This is a seriously good team.
StalkRavenMad
I agree with most of your post.
But, facing a loaded box shouldn’t be deterrent to running the ball. Imho that’s not a good enough reason to justify the playoff gameplan on 1st downs. Good run teams can run against a loaded box.
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05-11-2020, 04:07 PM #51
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05-11-2020, 04:08 PM #52
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Re: This is a seriously good team.
When? In preseason? To me it’s not even close to an apples to apples comparison to look at Trace preseason games against 2nd-3rd string comp and compare those stats against actual real game production.
I like Trace, but I think Griffin is an a whole other level of ability and accomplishment.
I think Huntley will be legit competition for Trace.
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Re: This is a seriously good team.
Let's win the f**king game.
Joe Flacco
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05-11-2020, 04:33 PM #55
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05-11-2020, 04:35 PM #56
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05-11-2020, 04:56 PM #57Four-eyed Raven
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Re: This is a seriously good team.
Oh I don't agree. I don't think Lamar needs to run as much as last year, for us to control games and win. We've diversified our WR personnel a little + Dobbins is better than any backup RB we had last year + we have improved the depth & number of options we have at C and LG.
Also, it won't be Lamar's first full season as the starter, and the team's first season with the new playbook. That all by itself would be reason enough to expect a step forward from the passing game, without any of the personnel stuff above.
(All that is without even talking about the defense.)
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05-11-2020, 05:02 PM #58Four-eyed Raven
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05-11-2020, 06:08 PM #59
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05-11-2020, 06:40 PM #60
Re: This is a seriously good team.
why don't you explain that in 1000 words instead of 15. Your argument sounds a lot better when expressed as a slogan than it does when fully fleshed out.
The fact remains that the Ravens took risks and lost because of it.
If, in the regular season, you go for it every time, maybe you win 3 of 4 times. But in the playoffs you have to win every single game. Yes, it sounds like a pussy to say "don't take risks". But the Ravens took the biggest risk of all to decide to go against the grain and take the great running QB and to run for more yards than ever before.
You haven't heard "conservative ball control offense" before? I cannot deny that your 15 words sound great on a bumper sticker. Running a ton with a QB is risky in the long run, but in the short run, it isn't, because running is less risky. How does, "booyah, just jam the ball down their throats" sound to you? That sounds like the hallmark of a champion. But teams that win the Super Bowl generally didn't turn the ball over on downs 4 times in a game like the Ravens did. I don't have access to the data if it exists. What's the record number of times a team went for it on 4th down in a single playoff game? I would assume that turning the ball over on downs 4 times in a playoff game has to be the record. Can't you just be, you know, a confident team, yet not a foolhardy team. And punt when it's reasonable to do so? And kick a FG when it's reasonable to do so? Or is never punting or never kicking a field goal just the true "hallmarks of a champion". It's true that no team every ran their QB as often, or got as many yards rushing from their QB or as many yards rushing from their team. But those things didn't cause losses. Going for it on 4th so many times did give the Titans the ball with a short field and did pretty much take points off the board.
Hallmarks of a champion can mean things like "impose your will on the other team simply by being dominant." The Ravens won when they ran first. And they lost when they passed twice as often as they ran the ball. In both playoff games, they dived away from the run, and lost. Best running team becomes generic passing team, and loses.
Still, though, again, yours was a pretty effective post. At the same time, the champion is the one who wins. The Ravens didn't win.
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