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Re: Ahmaud Arbery
From the evidence in the trial, it seems Zimmerman stopped following him. After that either they ran into each other, or what seems more likely based on where the confrontation happened, is that Martin circled back and confronted Zimmerman. After that a fight ensued and Zimmerman shot Martin while laying on his back getting his head bashed on concrete. The jury heard the facts and ruled self-defense.
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05-06-2020, 10:36 AM #14Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery
Zimmerman did call the cops
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...zimmerman.html
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05-06-2020, 11:38 AM #15Hall Of Fame Poster
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If you don't recall Zimmerman was a self appointed neighborhood watch. There were thefts in the area. He followed the kid. According to Zimmerman the kid doubled back to confront him. They got into an altercation. Zimmerman said his head was being slammed into the ground when he shot. There were photos of his injuries. It was the whole issue of stand your ground laws in Florida. The jury said it was self defense, the victims side still to this day claim murder.
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05-06-2020, 11:51 AM #16Hall Of Fame Poster
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From what I've read the 2 yahoo's in the truck were father & son. Father was retired investigator for DA of county. Heard a police call of someone going into an open construction site. Description was black male with white t shirt & shorts seen running from area. Father & son hopped into their truck to find him. There are old Georgia laws about citizens arrest so these 2 went to confront. There is a graphic video from a car tailing the guy jogging coming up to the 2 guys in the truck. They claim they only wanted to question the guy and the guy attacked the son. In the video the guy runs by the truck then comes around the front to confront the son. It looks like a fight between the 2 before he's shot twice, stumbles and falls to the street. They've moved the case to a 3rd DA because of conflicts between the 1st 2.
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05-06-2020, 12:10 PM #18Hall Of Fame Poster
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The 1st DA was the local one. He saw it as self defense and didn't convene a grand jury. The family complained and it became a NYT story. Since the father worked in that office they claimed a conflict. So it moved to another county only to have another one where someone in that office had family in the 1st. Now its on #3.
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I think there had been a series of break ins and one home invasion in that neighborhood prior to the Martin shooting incident. Was Zimmerman "patrolling" when that happened? I thought he called the cops to report Martin as being "suspicious" and got jumped while trying to keep eyes on. We will never know what happened but I can see Martin feeling threatened by Zimmerman following him but it seems there was an escalation of behaviors that led to that. In light of the break ins Zimmerman seems less "Deputy Dawg" but leaving your own home/property with a gun on to "investigate" as a civilian should no be tolerated or encouraged.
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Re: Ahmaud Arbery
The saddest thing to me about both cases is that both Trayvon and Ahmaud were completely unarmed and weren't displaying suspicious activity at the time of conflict. I would understand if the conflict occurred literally while they were literally breaking and entering or if they had been confirmed to had stolen from a store or something, but how do you get shot while walking from a family member's home and while jogging? Criminals don't go for a walk or go jogging after they've committed crime!! That doesn't make any mf sense!
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