Ahmaud Arbery

[darb72]

https://www.pennlive.com/daily-buzz/...y-reports.html

Everyone knows that if you call the police on black men, there's a decent chance you could get off. Everyone knows the police are way more violent towards black males.

No, nobody "knows" that. There's only anecdotal evidence which is inherently unreliable.

[darb72]

That supports my arguement. She was using that against him.

She had no need to to mention his skin colour until the police asked for a descp. She was hoping the mere mention of his skin colour to the cops would cause him to take fear stop videoing and move along.

I know cops are scared, the amount of crime towards cops is of the scales, black, white Mexican etc alike.

Cops put their lives on the line every day.

This issue isnt even about cops, its about a racist woman using the colour of a mans skin and the threat of cops against him.

I dont envy cops, i dont think id have the balls to be one in America.

Its nowhere near the same here imo.

I don't think im going to change yours or darbs mind.

She acted racist in my book and deserved to lose her job for it.

She also choked the dog to shit and you could here it gasping for breath so she deserved to lose it as well.

Yes, she used that against him. Possibly because she's a flaming racist, possibly because she was legitimately scared and looking for a way to make him leave.

[arnie_uk]

Yes, she used that against him. Possibly because she's a flaming racist, possibly because she was legitimately scared and looking for a way to make him leave.

Both would be estimation.

[wickedsolo]

What a shame in Minnesota.

A guy dies and punk-azz's start tearing through their communities vandalizing, robbing, and looting businesses, etc. Their being selfish and drawing attention away from what should be the focus.

And, typically, Democrat politicians basically approve of the destruction and violence...because it further fuels their narrative.

[CarrollCoRaven]

What a shame in Minnesota.

A guy dies and punk-azz's start tearing through their communities vandalizing, robbing, and looting businesses, etc. Their being selfish and drawing attention away from what should be the focus.

And, typically, Democrat politicians basically approve of the destruction and violence...because it further fuels their narrative.

Where is Stephanie Rawlings Blake when you need her?

[Valhain]

What a shame in Minnesota.

A guy dies and punk-azz's start tearing through their communities vandalizing, robbing, and looting businesses, etc. Their being selfish and drawing attention away from what should be the focus.

And, typically, Democrat politicians basically approve of the destruction and violence...because it further fuels their narrative.

Should being the key word here, right? That this is the 240,000,000 case should also tell you that the focus is not nearly strong enough, irrespective of looting or not.

[NCRAVEN]

Should being the key word here, right? That this is the 240,000,000 case should also tell you that the focus is not nearly strong enough, irrespective of looting or not.

Is that a real number or are you exaggerating?

[DitkasSausage]

Should being the key word here, right? That this is the 240,000,000 case should also tell you that the focus is not nearly strong enough, irrespective of looting or not.

Can you please list a handful of the 239,999,999? See, because this isn't very common. It is literally why it makes the news...
Is there issues in some police departments where there is racial bias? Yes. Undoubtedly. That stuff needs to be stomped out, and there needs to be levels of accountability for it. Here is the problem... people are making a big cultural mistake on one thing. These cops are in HIGHLY liberal districts almost every single time. LA, Baltimore, St. Louis, Miami-Dade, San Francisco, Chicago... SUPER liberal. Super liberal police chiefs. Want to fix a lot of these types of issues? Enforce the laws strictly, but don't make too many, which is the opposite of how justice is delivered in the liberal systems... where there are an overabundance of laws, and when a cop tries to enforce them, the cop is vilified.

Want a PRIME example? Raleigh, NC. They just elected a SUPER liberal Police Chief. They have been a low-crime city with a really good outreach to the minority community for decades. There is crime... it's a city. Now, with this new dip-shit Chief, who is over-regulating his police force, there are all sorts of issues, and "racism" is on the rise. One of my best friends is a cop down there... a REALLY good cop that has done community outreach for a long time. He's quitting. The police are receiving zero support from this lazy POS chief. They are told NOT to patrol the minority communities so crime is getting out of control there, which is tearing apart some really nice minority neighborhoods. When Liberal Policing policies are applied, the BIGGEST group to suffer are minorities.

When I see people say that "Police shouldn't even be patrolling black neighborhoods because they cannot control their bias!"... that is THE most racist thing I have EVER heard. You don't care about law-abiding black families that live in those communities? You just think that blacks are all criminals that loot and riot? How would you feel if a violent criminal moved into your neighborhood, and the police just "didn't want to get involved" so they let him terrorize you and your neighbors? You'd feel helpless right? You think MAYBE that is why a lot of these black communities in liberal cities are so awful? They have crap schools, bad streets, no jobs, no infrastructure, and less hope. Why? Because liberals just think that is how blacks "want to live", and it's a "cultural thing"... that arresting the criminals in these neighborhoods is "racist". I was actually on a jury where the dude was busted selling cocaine to an ATF agent undercover. It was open and shut. The black people in the jury wanted to let this dude go because they hated cops and didn't want to see another black person in jail. I got them to turn it around because I was like, "Oh, so you think he's innocent? You want him to live in your neighborhood?" They were like "Hell no!". So then I asked, "Well how do you think the decent folks who live in his neighborhood feel?"... we found him guilty on all three charges. People need to start understanding that criminals in black communities shouldn't just be allowed and that cops are all bad either.

I've had it up to here with this nonsense. I want the black community to thrive. I want them to have all of the things white neighborhoods have without sacrificing their sense of community. I love black people in general. But I am getting sick and tired of the nonsense of equating criminals to the black community. Take a look at the rioting, the looting... these are people that have zero structure, hope, or sense of community... it feels good so it's right. There is zero accountability. If you feel the looters and rioters are "part of the black community, and we need to recognize that" you are a seething horrible racist. For every rioter and looter out there right now, there is several poor black families cowering in their house holding their children tight... scared... terrified that the police won't help them. Losing hope. Their kids are watching the local criminals they are told to avoid having a field day, and getting all sorts of new cool stuff. The media never interviews them, so they feel isolated and alone. If you aren't rooting for those victims, then you are a disgusting human being.

This guy shouldn't have been killed by the cops, and the FBI and DOJ (at the request of Trump btw) are swooping in to throw the book at these cops. Cops who will have to go to a jail, where everyone in that jail will know they are cops that killed a handcuffed black man... what extra justice do you want for these criminals? We need to have more accountability in police precincts, and police need to do a better job of showing all the good they do... but this problem is NOT just on their side either. From a cops point of view, police are being assassinated in NYC in broad daylight. There is a popular saying, "F#$ the Police!" that has become cultural and permeated society. Cops are assaulted, harassed, and blamed even when they are doing their jobs correctly. That has to stop too. This needs to be a solution that BOTH sides want, and neither side can get everything they want. Minority communities need to be policed, and Police need to show greater compassion and respect for minorities in general.

[darb72]

We need to focus on cases of actual racism instead of throwing out the phrase systemic racism. Sure there are racists out there of every color, but they're generally not in a position of power. Racist people tend to be incredibly stupid and short sighted, two traits that don't lend themselves well to achieving life goals. Then we need to stop listening to racebaiters like Al Sharpton, who is on his way to Minnesota because that's not a terrible idea.

Instead, we have looting and burning. What is the major problem facing inner cities today? Lack of jobs. What happened over the last three days in Minnesota? 170 business were looted/burned. I'm betting less than half open back up which shoots the economy in that area all to hell. So then we get to listen to people bitching that a high unemployment is evidence of "systemic racism".

Idiots.

[DitkasSausage]

We need to focus on cases of actual racism instead of throwing out the phrase systemic racism. Sure there are racists out there of every color, but they're generally not in a position of power. Racist people tend to be incredibly stupid and short sighted, two traits that don't lend themselves well to achieving life goals. Then we need to stop listening to racebaiters like Al Sharpton, who is on his way to Minnesota because that's not a terrible idea.

Instead, we have looting and burning. What is the major problem facing inner cities today? Lack of jobs. What happened over the last three days in Minnesota? 170 business were looted/burned. I'm betting less than half open back up which shoots the economy in that area all to hell. So then we get to listen to people bitching that a high unemployment is evidence of "systemic racism".

Idiots.

I cannot possibly like this more! "systemic racism" is not a thing... however, destroying your own neighborhood, having media champion you while you do that, and then a week later, when the community is in ruins, the same media will be like, "this is because of poor schools and systemic racism!". Also... Police asked to stand down and watch the businesses they have protected for years be torn apart by looters and rioters, and then asking them to come back and not hold some sort of grudge, or develop a bit of a chip? That is also insane. Letting the media define what "Black Culture" is has done far more for destroying the black community than anything else. Letting liberals get away with equating self-destruction to the black community needs to be called out as vile racism. Letting socialists/anarchists use and discard the black community as a tool to get what they want is systemic racism.

[ravenmaniac4life]

I cannot possibly like this more! "systemic racism" is not a thing... however, destroying your own neighborhood, having media champion you while you do that, and then a week later, when the community is in ruins, the same media will be like, "this is because of poor schools and systemic racism!". Also... Police asked to stand down and watch the businesses they have protected for years be torn apart by looters and rioters, and then asking them to come back and not hold some sort of grudge, or develop a bit of a chip? That is also insane. Letting the media define what "Black Culture" is has done far more for destroying the black community than anything else. Letting liberals get away with equating self-destruction to the black community needs to be called out as vile racism. Letting socialists/anarchists use and discard the black community as a tool to get what they want is systemic racism.

[wickedsolo]

I cannot possibly like this more! "systemic racism" is not a thing... however, destroying your own neighborhood, having media champion you while you do that, and then a week later, when the community is in ruins, the same media will be like, "this is because of poor schools and systemic racism!". Also... Police asked to stand down and watch the businesses they have protected for years be torn apart by looters and rioters, and then asking them to come back and not hold some sort of grudge, or develop a bit of a chip? That is also insane. Letting the media define what "Black Culture" is has done far more for destroying the black community than anything else. Letting liberals get away with equating self-destruction to the black community needs to be called out as vile racism. Letting socialists/anarchists use and discard the black community as a tool to get what they want is systemic racism.

I totally agree with this perspective. It's a real shame that members of the Black community continue to allow the media and corrupt politicians and activists to define Black Culture and the Black Community in America. It completely tarnishes and casts shadows on so many good people and good things.