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05-07-2021, 11:39 AM #1285
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Re: Ravens Still Don't Get it it at WR
The 2012 ravens were a pretty talented roster... I'd say they were above average in talent. They had a lot of injuries early on but got a lot of guys back at the right time. Stubborn harbs also decided to go with the OL he should have earlier on in the season with McKinnie at LT, Oher at RT, and KO at LG. The Ravens probably go in as a 11-5 or 12-4 team had he gone with that OL instead of benching McKinnie at the start of the season.
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Re: Ravens Still Don't Get it it at WR
The 2011 team was definitely more talented. But the 2012 roster was better than average IMO. Top 5 OL (with the right combination)... top 10 defense when they had all the pieces together (I realise they were ranked 17th, but they were banged up for a big chunk of the season)... and mid level skill players. Obviously Joe Flacco was the main reason they ended up going all the way, but I think its a stretch to say he was surrounded by an average team.
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05-07-2021, 12:16 PM #1289
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Re: Ravens Still Don't Get it it at WR
Not sure how to take this, but if it’s blaming Flacco then the only thing he’s guilty of is not having a yellow S on his chest. How many 4th Q comebacks were negated because of a prevent D. Think back to NE. Dropped PO passes, think back to NE playoffs, or having AB traded. Flacco deserved better in Baltimore. His critics blame him for sucking up quality WR’s salary with his big pay day. Will we say that about LJ? I say no.
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05-07-2021, 12:38 PM #1290
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05-08-2021, 10:23 AM #1291
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05-12-2021, 10:23 AM #1292Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ravens Still Don't Get it it at WR
Isn't the logic of using 4th quarter comebacks as a positive a fallacy? You could argue that a better QB wouldn't have gotten down in the first place, and puts the game away easily. You don't always have to win ugly, you're allowed to win pretty. A win's a win.
I think that the proof in the pudding is that in the same exact season with the same exact squad, Flacco went 4-5, and Lamar went 6-2 (yes, notice I include the play-off loss in his record before anybody else brings that up). That was a rookie QB who went 6-2, and while yes, Flacco may have been getting older, he was 33 years old for God's sakes. Most of the QBs going to the HOF from this era didn't even reach their peak until after that.
We only see a microscopic portion of what goes into roster decisions and player analysis. Clearly the guys who are paid a lot of money to make decisions saw what was going on in practice and in games, and clearly saw that Lamar was the far superior player. I could only imagine how many SBs we would have won if Lamar was our QB during our stacked defense years.
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05-12-2021, 11:25 AM #1293Regular 1st Stringer
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05-13-2021, 09:14 AM #1294Legendary RSR Poster
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