Brockers deal delayed by ankle issue

**Culex** · 03-25-2020, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by NjRavensFan

I mean there are 31 teams worth of players who haven’t played in this defense yet and lots of them are very good so idk wtf the point of this post is

**Desert Raven** · 03-25-2020, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by NjRavensFan

I mean there are 31 teams worth of players who haven’t played in this defense yet and lots of them are very good so idk wtf the point of this post is

You said I was “massively underselling” him whatever that means. I mean, I know you know everything already, but do you see an Aaron Donald playing next to him here?

**NjRavensFan** · 03-25-2020, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Desert Raven

You said I was “massively underselling” him whatever that means. I mean, I know you know everything already, but do you see an Aaron Donald playing next to him here.

He’s an elite run stuffer who is solid against the pass. So yeah, “decent run stuffer” is a massive undersell. I don’t claim to know everything, this is a pretty objective and agreed-upon evaluation of Michael Brockers.

And I see Calais Campbell who has been the second best IDL in the league since Donald broke out

**Laxdad24** · 03-25-2020, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Culex

For the turds that would be cool but for a Superbowl contender, not so much.

Um.....0-2 in the playofffs. Doesn’t sound like a SuperBowl contender. But add a monster like Clowney to this front 7 and then ...then we’re Super Bowl contenders. Like him or not Clowney is a name. OCs game plan for dudes like that. Add him to Cambell and get a MLB in the draft and let’s play.

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**Laxdad24** · 03-25-2020, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by NjRavensFan

He’s an elite run stuffer who is solid against the pass. So yeah, “decent run stuffer” is a massive undersell. I don’t claim to know everything, this is a pretty objective and agreed-upon evaluation of Michael Brockers.

And I see Calais Campbell who has been the second best IDL in the league since Donald broke out

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**boller4president** · 03-25-2020, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by NjRavensFan

I mean those are one and the same.

You and the handful of others on this board are also pretty alone in the idea that the contract was an overpay btw. The contract was widely lauded nationally.

No they are not. I am not against Brockers getting his or even being overpaid as long as the ravens are not the ones doing it. I am just looking it from the perspective of a Raven fan it's not personal.

As far as the rest goes I don't control what the media narrative is I think it's an overpay. I said earlier it really depends on how well he does rushing the passer prior to last year he was primarily just a run stuffer that doesn't get you 10m unless your name is Brandon Williams. Like I said my preference would have been to go out and sign a pure run stuffer like Danny Shelton or Poe for a / of the cost and use the left over money on a pure pass rusher to start alongside Judon. That is still the avenue I would prefer even if the options have sig dwindled

**Culex** · 03-25-2020, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

Um.....0-2 in the playofffs. Doesn’t sound like a SuperBowl contender. But add a monster like Clowney to this front 7 and then ...then we’re Super Bowl contenders. Like him or not Clowney is a name. OCs game plan for dudes like that. Add him to Cambell and get a MLB in the draft and let’s play.

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You really gonna tell me a 14-2 team isn't a SB contender

**Laxdad24** · 03-26-2020, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by Culex

You really gonna tell me a 14-2 team isn't a SB contender

Well....exactly how far did this 14-2 team make it in January? Put down the Purple Drank bro. This team has flaws. Add to the 0-2 the fact we’ve never beaten KC. Contender or Pretender.

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**Brtnder81** · 03-26-2020, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan

Now's not the time to be messing around with the money. That'll really hurt the Ravens reputation around the league with the agents, and by extension the players.

Question should be, do they sign him Y/N

Did it hurt us when we signed a Ryan Grant a few years ago, then he failed his physical and we voided the deal? Nope sure didntt

**Brtnder81** · 03-26-2020, 02:47 AM

If the Ravens can't have their Drs look at him soon, I would like to see the contract reworked to $6m guaranteed, and $4m in incentives and the Ravens have the option to get out of the contract after 1 year with minimal dead money.

**TL24x7** · 03-26-2020, 04:15 AM

Campbell and Brockers...the combination of the players together is something that added allure to the former Ram. The team wanted to move away from pure run-stuffers like Pierce, and the Campbell/Brockers combo, disrupting the pocket inside the edge rushers, made Wormley expendable.

But the red flag was hoisted when out of the blue the Ravens were in on Suh. And that didn't play out for the Ravens as he stayed in Tampa.

Adding the right pieces in free agency liberates the Ravens war room. They don't feel as compelled to reach for need. If the Ravens doctors can't get comfortable with Brockers (and they do rely on them as mentioned earlier in the Ryan Grant case), the need could influence their draft board, not to mention the depth they've lost in Wormley.

Sometimes the medical report can sway the team to make the right choice. Sometimes it doesn't. I remember in 2010 the Ravens took Gronk off their board due to medical concerns, yet invested draft capital in two tight ends anyway (Dickson & Pitta). I remember there was some mild interest in Drew Brees in 2006 but they passed due to concerns about his shoulder. Fourteen years later he's still chucking it. Steve McNair would become a Raven prior to that season.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Brockers passes the physical, then all is ok. If he doesn't, and given the attempt to sign Suh there's concern that he won't, it would be DeCosta's first swing and a miss as General Manager.

Hopefully we'll learn soon.

Hopefully it works out for the team's very savvy GM!

**BearArms** · 03-26-2020, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by TL24x7

Campbell and Brockers...the combination of the players together is something that added allure to the former Ram. The team wanted to move away from pure run-stuffers like Pierce, and the Campbell/Brockers combo, disrupting the pocket inside the edge rushers, made Wormley expendable.

But the red flag was hoisted when out of the blue the Ravens were in on Suh. And that didn't play out for the Ravens as he stayed in Tampa.

Adding the right pieces in free agency liberates the Ravens war room. They don't feel as compelled to reach for need. If the Ravens doctors can't get comfortable with Brockers (and they do rely on them as mentioned earlier in the Ryan Grant case), the need could influence their draft board, not to mention the depth they've lost in Wormley.

Sometimes the medical report can sway the team to make the right choice. Sometimes it doesn't. I remember in 2010 the Ravens took Gronk off their board due to medical concerns, yet invested draft capital in two tight ends anyway (Dickson & Pitta). I remember there was some mild interest in Drew Brees in 2006 but they passed due to concerns about his shoulder. Fourteen years later he's still chucking it. Steve McNair would become a Raven prior to that season.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Brockers passes the physical, then all is ok. If he doesn't, and given the attempt to sign Suh there's concern that he won't, it would be DeCosta's first swing and a miss as General Manager.

Hopefully we'll learn soon.

Hopefully it works out for the team's very savvy GM!

I wouldn't have been concerned as much except for the Suh angle. You can add Myles Jack to that list too.

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