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03-11-2020, 10:34 PM #25
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There's a few critical issues around the sureveillance data. Mostly, there's a lot of under reporting of non-fatal or non-critical cases, which obviously take them out of the sample and push mortality and hospitalization rates up. So that's a major issue in all public health sureveillance data (Think about when you have the cold or even the flu - if you dont need to go to the doctor or hospital, you don't report it - same concept).
When I say "create conditions to isolate" it feeds into that common sense stuff. If you have a job that you can continue to do from the comfort of your own home then employers should be pushing to create those conditions. It limits exposure without going into shutdown mode. It's the fine line between doing enough and not doing too much.
The real issue with this virus is the transmission pattern, including asymptomic transmission pre-and-post virus are unclear and those are the basis of public health guidelines making ti really hard to give recommendations.
Common sense is the way to go."Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
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03-11-2020, 10:34 PM #26
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That's why I would just close schools for the next three weeks and let adults work from home unless their job requires them to be present.
If schools stay open you'll have the soccer moms start freaking out every time someone associated with a school tests positive for coronavirus. Just be proactive about it.
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03-11-2020, 10:42 PM #27On The Practice Squad
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I still struggle with what I think the appropriate response should be. On the one hand, the cumulative public health impact will be high because of almost the perfect storm of a long incubation period, a high infection rate and a very wide spectrum of disease severity resulting in a large pool of minimally symptomatic infections that serves as an ongoing reservoir of virus. Even at low mortality rates, if we multiply the number of expected deaths by 4 (since historically 1/4 of acute respiratory distress syndrome patients die) the number of ventilators needed to support will be enormous. Given that potential, it appears that every effort should be made to minimize the rate of disease spread.
On the other hand, how do you justify shutting down the entire country to the 80% (just a guess on my part) who will have very mild symptoms? Not all of them have the option to work from home or practice social distancing or whatever buzzy word you want to apply to quarantining. What happens to the restaurant workers and hairdressers and the like if their livelihoods are taken away? not just for a week or two, but potentially months?
Either way, this pandemic is seems likely to have significant effects on the most medically and financially vulnerable members of society unless we find another way to mitigate its health impact.
Edit: agree with others that effective screening and targeted isolation program is the way to go, if possible.Last edited by Entropy; 03-11-2020 at 10:54 PM.
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03-11-2020, 10:48 PM #28
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I gotta say, I love this board.
You guys and gals are amazing and I’m proud to be one of you.
The level of discourse on a variety of topics, the quality of the thoughts, the humanity and friendship of the posters.
The internet with its cancel culture and toxic cesspit of interactions can be a shitty lens through which to view the world.
Y’all give me hope.
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03-11-2020, 10:49 PM #29
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03-11-2020, 11:07 PM #30
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This just happened with Fred Hoiberg getting sick at the Big Ten tournament.
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/s...31638236917763
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Nebraska coach Fred Hoiberg has left the game early to be taken to the hospital to get checked out after feeling sick, per @GoodmanHoops
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03-11-2020, 11:38 PM #31Legendary RSR Poster
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My wife's school has extended spring break but a week. Aa county schools have stated they're prepared to teach online if needed.
We're preparing by going to Disney tomorrow. Will let you guys know how the impact seems there.
I do fully expect that my work office will go fully remote before we're back.
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03-12-2020, 01:08 AM #32
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03-12-2020, 01:12 AM #33
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one of the craziest stories of all time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_Stanley_Cup_Finals
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03-12-2020, 05:56 AM #34Regular 1st Stringer
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Hang in there yaal. I audit custodians at the hospital. I gotta go in 24 rooms a day with a clear solution to spray in 10 (high-touch) areas, then return the next day with a blacklight to see if the spray has been removed. Been getting good scores to those wondering, but I am taking all of the usual precautions. Pediatric units require staff to wear medical masks before entering rooms as of yesterday. Additionally for those who don’t know, each door tells of which precautions should be taken before entering a room. Proper hand hygiene, and proper use of personal protective equipment is listed on the door. My hospital hasn’t publicly announced that the virus is there yet, but higher-ups have said there are a few cases where it can’t be ruled out yet. Training staff to work a bio-containment unit occurred when we faced ebola and essential staff has been retrained. I thought it was interesting to know that the first patient confirmed goes into a isolation room meaning one patient in a room, with only access to people who enter with PAPRs, a protective suit with breathing apparatus. Next it would go to containing half of a unit, then if it goes to full pandemic mode, we will dedicate a full unit to it, with folks and doctors alike walking around in spaceman suits. If we run out of space there, we are planning to move all of the effected patients to a containment building with negative pressure, hopefully containing the virus. Hopefully, some of these precautions make you feel better like the did me. Not that I am not worried, but just some of the stuff I have seen working as a small ant at a hospital among giants.
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03-12-2020, 06:37 AM #35
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I wasn't worried initially but looking at what's happening in Italy is worrisome. Normally I'm healthy but there's limited studies on how it could affect pregnant women/fetuses.
Glad I've been working from home since January. I wish my husband's office would let him do the same...
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03-12-2020, 06:51 AM #36
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Btw there are 2 Corona threads here and they are NOT like each other lol
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