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  1. #13
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    Re: Spec teams an underrated issue

    Quote Originally Posted by PTORaven View Post
    some of the stats used in that ranking are considered by others to be random and not all that useful. opposing FG percentage is one. aside from actually blocking the FG, not much that your ST unit does affects whether their kicker puts it through the uprights
    Then one assumes he's weighting it low. Gosselin's spec teams rankings are pretty well respected, and widely cited. He's been doing it a LONG time; decades

    FO has the Ravens 10th in full-seaon spec teams DVOA; but 24th in "weighted DVOA", which discounts eralier games and puts increased weight on recent results:
    That tends to back up OrgChaos' observation, that we were really good up to a point then fell off a cliff.

    However – and this is interesting – they say we were among the teams most adversely effected by some things outside of team control:
    • Second-biggest weather disadvantage to our spec teams on the season (after the Jets).
    • 23rd in advantage from "Hidden" factors, like opposing FGs, kickoff air distance, and punt air distance.
    So we might not have played as bad as our stats. I think this backs up your point, PTO.

    But we also got damn little out of our return game on the year.

    Plenty of room for improvement!





  2. #14
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    Re: Spec teams an underrated issue

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    Then one assumes he's weighting it low. Gosselin's spec teams rankings are pretty well respected, and widely cited. He's been doing it a LONG time; decades
    cool, i'll have to check out his methodology. yeah, ravens were top 5 (maybe even top 3) the week before the Jets game, but that game (as noted elsewhere on here) was prob the worst game for ST anyone could remember from the Harbaugh era.





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