Flacco and other senior QBs in Hall of Fame?

[GOTA]

1) Joe Flacco - Ravens Ring Of Honor. Hall - NO.

2) Brady - Did you really just ask if the GOAT is a Hall Of Famer?

3) Drew Brees - 1st ballot

4) Aaron Rogers - 1st ballot

5) Eli Manning - Two Super wins over the GOAT and has the name. He's in, but not 1st ballot.

6) Matty Ryan - Probably Falcons ROH. But not Hall worthy.

7) Phillip Rivers - Very good QB during his time. It's not call the "Hall of Very Good".

8) Ben Roethlisburg - 1st ballot

9) Ryan Fitzpatrick - Is this a joke?

I agree with all this except Eli. In theory he would get in on a slow year but there doesn't seem to be slow years. I see Eli one day being a veterans committee kind of pick. Until then there will be all sorts of stories on how he's being passed up but he will still be passed up. Eli will the Tom Flores version of quarterbacks.

[Laxdad24]

I agree with all this except Eli. In theory he would get in on a slow year but there doesn't seem to be slow years. I see Eli one day being a veterans committee kind of pick. Until then there will be all sorts of stories on how he's being passed up but he will still be passed up. Eli will the Tom Flores version of quarterbacks.

Like Jimmy Z said ....Eli is this generations Plunkett


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[GOTA]

Like Jimmy Z said ....Eli is this generations Plunkett


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That's a great comparison. It's not just the Super Bowls. Plunkett was 72-72-0. Eli is 117-117-0. If Eli retires he'll be exactly at .500 just like Plunkett.

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

I agree with pretty much everything Jim said.

[HbgPARavenfan]

so which of these old QBs make the Hall of Fame (if any)?
1) Joe Flacco
+ similar to Eli. lots of great playoff performance, one ring.
- some mediocre seasons.
; probly Ravens Ring of Honor but probly no HoF.

2) Brady.
+s goat. six rings.
-s cheating pretty boy.
; pretty much a lock

3) Drew Brees
+ great stats, great reputation, one ring.
- some mediocre seasons, playoff losses
; probably.

4) Aaron Rogers
see above. still has a chance for a 2nd ring.

5) Eli Manning
+ two rings, two great playoff runs
- lots of 7-9s in between, faded out
; NY media might get him in

6) Matty Ryan
+ great stats
- dome team with Julio Jones. not great in the postseason.
; NO NO NO. Hall of Famers do NOT blow 28-3 leads in the postseason.

7) Phillip Rivers
same as above without the SB disaster.
; no. not enough playoff oomph.

8) Ben Roethlisburg
+ two rings, a ton of wins, postseason success.
- reputation for being carried by the team, not vice versa. pwnd by Brady.
; hard to say no to two rings and a ton of wings, but there are character issues. too close to call.

9) Ryan Fitzpatrick
+ longevity
- career record 55-83-1
; nope. kind of a shame he never played on a really good team.

Brady Brees Rodgers for being ite plus a superbowl.

Eli and Ben for being on big market teams and having two rings despite never being elite

No Flacco no Ryan no rivers

[InigoMontoya]

Like Jimmy Z said ....Eli is this generations Plunkett


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The difference is those were great Raider teams that Plunkett was the QB for.

Those Giant teams came out of nowhere to beat the best team in NFL history in the Super Bowl...twice. They weren't great teams. They just put it all together in 2008 and 2012. Eli deserves way more credit for those Giant Super Bowls vs. Plunkett, imo.

[PTORaven]

i pretty much agree with everyone, except...

Rivers is about two games shy of the 400TD club (397 currently) and about three games shy of the 60K yards club (59271).
QBs with 400TDs: Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Favre, Marino
QBs with 60K yards: Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Favre, Marino

Rivers is also an eight time pro-bowler.
QBs with 8+ pro-bowl selections: Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Favre, Marino, Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Elway, Warren Moon, Norm Van Brocklin, Rodgers, Montana, Bob Griese.
Every single one of those QBs is already in the hall except for presumptive first-ballot guys still playing (Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Rodgers)

I think it's more likely than not that Rivers gets into the HOF, even if he doesn't ever win a Super Bowl.

[Ortizer]

Ryan and Rivers have had some statistically really good years, but done in an era where a lot of QBs are putting up huge numbers, and neither has a ring. It's a hard no on both of them. They both go along with the old saying, it's not the Hall of Very Good, it's the Hall of Fame.

I feel like all the others are obvious one way or the other. Eli is the only somewhat debatable one, and even he is certain to be in because of the two rings and the manner in which he won them.

Eli should get in if only for giving us https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x580881

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[ERey]

I agree with all this except Eli. In theory he would get in on a slow year but there doesn't seem to be slow years. I see Eli one day being a veterans committee kind of pick. Until then there will be all sorts of stories on how he's being passed up but he will still be passed up. Eli will the Tom Flores version of quarterbacks.

Eli Manning is #7 in passing yards all time just in front of Roethlisberger. Interesting though, Phillip Rivers is #6. But Eli has two Super Bowls. He's in.

Rivers has the stats. But I think he's also a product of the passing era (similar to Eli but without the Super Bowls). None of those stats converted to signature wins that I can recall or Super Bowl appearances. Out of 16 seasons only 8 of them were winning seasons. Consider this, If Joe Flacco plays next season he'll pass Johnny Unitas in passing yards.

[sailorsam]

??? No love for Fitzmagic???

seriously, it struck me how many 35+ year old QBs are starting (or recent starters).
don't know if we've had that many older qbs in the league at one time.

of course I don't think he should be in the hall but he's part of the generation.

he should get some kind of award for beating the Pats week 17 and taking their first round bye

[HbgPARavenfan]

i pretty much agree with everyone, except...

Rivers is about two games shy of the 400TD club (397 currently) and about three games shy of the 60K yards club (59271).
QBs with 400TDs: Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Favre, Marino
QBs with 60K yards: Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Favre, Marino

Rivers is also an eight time pro-bowler.
QBs with 8+ pro-bowl selections: Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Favre, Marino, Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Elway, Warren Moon, Norm Van Brocklin, Rodgers, Montana, Bob Griese.
Every single one of those QBs is already in the hall except for presumptive first-ballot guys still playing (Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, Rodgers)

I think it's more likely than not that Rivers gets into the HOF, even if he doesn't ever win a Super Bowl.

Rivers and Ryan are the epitome of Stat compilers. They were never the best in the league in their generation and have no hardware, that's a hard No to HOF for a qb imo

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