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01-16-2020, 09:35 AM #13Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: Has Anyone Heard or Read Any Rational Answer to Passing 70 Times
Hint: There ARE none.
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Re: Has Anyone Heard or Read Any Rational Answer to Passing 70 Times
I think when the Titans beat the Chiefs this year in the regular season, they continued running the ball after they went down 10-0
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01-16-2020, 11:46 AM #17
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Re: Has Anyone Heard or Read Any Rational Answer to Passing 70 Times
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Re: Has Anyone Heard or Read Any Rational Answer to Passing 70 Times
I missed most of it, but I know filmstudy was on 105.7 the other day And explained why they threw so much and said he didn’t have an issue with it. Originally, I was upset with the lack of running, but the bottom line is there were plays out there to be made, and they just didn’t make them.
I think a healthy Andrews would have made a huge difference. He really had zero separation the large majority of the time. I also think if Hurst had been a bigger part of the offense all year long that might’ve change the outcome as well.
The good thing is, I am convinced Lamar will work on those out routes, decosta will get that receiver to make it harder to sit on those out routes, and Hurst will be a bigger part of the office next year.
Anyway, just my .02 cents!
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01-16-2020, 07:21 PM #19Hall Of Fame Poster
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01-16-2020, 08:43 PM #21
Re: Has Anyone Heard or Read Any Rational Answer to Passing 70 Times
Don't look at the overall game. The last 37 snaps came with the Ravens trailing by 2+ scores and less than 20 minutes remaining (34 dropbacks). Note that on the 5th drive, the Ravens ran 13 plays (all dropbacks) in the 2 minute offense. If we properly account for that drive, the Ravens ran on 18 of 40 plays through their 6th drive. Perhaps they should have run more (ineffective as it was), but they hardly abandoned the run.
Drive q time Ravens Titans dropback run Cumulative DB Cumulative Runs 1111:420034342103:310724583214:3901430884211:130146514135202:3231413027136314:556148535187306:546211036188304:166287143199414:4962882512110406:251228100612111402:451228907021
As for Ricard, the Ravens gained 7 yards on the 7 snaps he played.
Number type Snaps Gain YPP 42dropbacks100.0042called runs671.1742total771.00
RBs not getting carries is on Lamar/TEN. Per Michael Crawford (@abukari), the Ravens ran 9 option plays throughout the game. Lamar kept on all 9. That's how he ended up with 20 carries. He also wasn't particularly successful on those options, gaining only 35 yards.
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01-16-2020, 09:17 PM #22
Re: Has Anyone Heard or Read Any Rational Answer to Passing 70 Times
Simplest way is probably to focus on the 7 to 10 big plays:
Q1, 08:02, 2nd & 10 from TEN 36
Andrews tips ball to Byard. Instead of 3rd & 10 from TEN 36 (or possibly 1st & 10 inside TEN 25), Titans get the ball 1st & 10 from BAL 35
Q1, 03:06, 3rd & goal from BAL 12
Smith makes insane catch in EZ. Instead of settling for field goal following ETIII's sack, Titans go up 7-0
Q2, 15:00, 4th & inches from BAL 45
Titans stop Lamar on QB power, forcing a turnover on downs
Q2, 14:45, 1st & 10 from BAL 45
Kalif Raymond (who?) burns Marlon (who got very little help from Clark) for a 45 yard TD. Ravens down 14-0, Tannehill wouldn't throw another pass over 5 Air Yards for the remainder of the night.
Q2, 14:39, 1st & 10 from BAL 26
Lamar threads the needle (with a wobbler?) between three defenders. Seth Roberts has a potential TD pass bounce off his hands. Ravens would drop back to pass on next two plays, go three and out. All momentum completely gone.
Q2, 06:47, 1st & 10 from TEN 29
Lamar misses a wide open Hurst in the middle of the field, forcing the ball outside to Hollywood. Adoree Jackson breaks on the ball, knocking it away. 3 plays later (following a Snead drop on a pass slightly behind him), the Ravens would settle for a field goal. Hurst had a good chance to score, but he would have been inside the 10 regardless. (Note that he was lined up at FB on this play. More of this in 2020, please). Ravens finally on the board, but it could have been 7. Titans up 14-3
Q2, 02:32, 1st & 10 from BAL 5
Following De'Anthony Thomas' 2nd penalty this season for blocking after a fair catch signal, the Ravens start at their own 5 yard line. Lamar marches them down the field, converting a 3rd & 16 from his own 9, and a 3rd & 14 from the TEN 42 (Hollywood one-handed catch!), but the Ravens blow too much time and have to settle for a field goal (interesting clock management costs them up to ~35 seconds, a sack hurts them, and Lamar scrambles on the final offensive play of the half, losing 7 seconds and ensuring they would only have one shot from the TEN 4). A Ravens' fg cuts it to 14-6.
Q3, 10:01, 4th & 1 from TEN 18
The Ravens marched down the field to start Q3, trailing 14-6. Instead of kicking a field goal, the Ravens stick with their aggressive mindset, but come up short after the Titans pack the box.
Q3, 08:37, 3rd & 1 from TEN 28
3 plays after stopping the Ravens on 4th down for the 2nd time, Derrick Henry slips a Matthew Judon tackle, eludes Brandon Carr, and rumbles 66 yards before Marcus Peters can bring him down (nearly stripping the ball away in the process!). Those 66 yards represented nearly 34% of Henry's yards for the day.
Q3, 06:59, 3rd & goal from BAL 3
3 plays after getting the Titans into the red zone, Henry throws his first NFL pass (I believe his first since HS), which he completes to Corey Davis for a TD. Marcus Mariota was on the field for the snap, but motioned out (and was subsequently wide open). Henry's jump pass wasn't pretty, but it got the job done. 21-6 Titans.
Q3, 06:54, 1st & 10 from BAL 25
On the Ravens next snap from scrimmage, Jurrell Casey beats Stanley inside (with help from a chip from Ingram). Lamar eludes him, but holds the ball too long waiting for Hollywood to come open. Casey's strip sack sets the Titans up in prime real estate (and likely marks when the game became unwinnable as any points on this drive put the Titans up by 3 scores with less than 20 minutes to go).
Q3, 05:59, 3rd & 6 from BAL 16
Tannehill completes a quick slant to AJ Brown, who eludes Matt Judon (no idea what he was doing here) and picks up the first down.
Q3, 04:20, 3rd & goal from BAL 1
Taking a page from the Ravens, the Titans runs an option play. ETIII is forced to pick up the pitch man (Henry), leaving LJ Fort as the only Raven with a play on Tannehill. A Titan OL gets a hat on Fort, and neither Pierce nor Williams is able to take Tannehill down before he crosses the goal line. 28-6 Titans, and this game is all but over.
I'll add a few more plays, but these plays were far less important than Q3.
Q3, 01:50, 3rd & 5 from TEN 35
Titans drop back in cover 2 and completely fool Lamar, who throws a quick out to Boykin. Vaccarro makes a great catch, but this ball was an incompletion at best from the time it left Lamar's hands.
Q4, 11:09, 2PA
Lamar finds Hurst for a TD, and the Ravens call an interesting play on the two point attempt. With Chris Moore, Willie Snead, and Miles Boykin split wide right, they roll Lamar in that direction. None are ever open, and Lamar has to force a pass to Boykin in the back of the EZ. It's knocked away. 28-12 Titans. Note that Andrews, lined up as the in-line TE on the left side of the line, was forced to stay in and block on this play. He's likely replacing Boyle, who was injured in Q3 and never returned.
Q4, 04:53, 1st & 10 from TEN 21
Lamar throws a pass to Hurst that bounces off 81's arm/chest before he can turn his head. Had Hurst turned his head, he likely walks into the EZ as Byard went for the ball. IMO, Lamar saw Hurst open but running into defenders and threw it before he got there. Hurst didn't make the same read and never saw the ball.
Q4, 04:31, 4th & 5 from TEN 16
Lamar's pass falls incomplete, and the game is well and truly over. The Ravens would touch the ball one more time, but this was their final chance to complete the two score comeback (and it's incredibly unlikely even if they do score here).
Ok, that's way more than 10. IMO, the biggest plays came in Q3: the 4th down stop --> Henry's run + pass --> strip sack --> Brown 3rd down + Tannehill TD = game over.Shared Google Folder with Ravens spreadsheets, nextGen charts, and more! Please share my content! (attribution to Twitter requested)
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01-16-2020, 10:45 PM #23Veteran Poster
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Re: Has Anyone Heard or Read Any Rational Answer to Passing 70 Times
I just rewatched the game and boy did the Ravens leave a lot of plays on the field both offensively and defensively. We have talked about the drops. The Ravens ran 91 plays and came away with 12 points. The Ravens punted exactly 1 time and came away with 12 pts. At one point there was 4 consecutive possessions where the ravens had double digit drives going and came away with 3 points. They had a 5 minute time of possession advantage, out gaines them by over 200 yards and only scored 12 pts. That is nearly impossible to do.
Defensively Judon had Henry stopped for a short gain which would have forced a punt instead he misses the tackle and Henry runs for 66 yards. On another play Bowser drops in perfect postion and had a int go right through his hands. Yet again down near the goal line Bynes drops in coverage and has a int go through his hands right before the Tannehill TD.
After rewatching the game I dont think the Ravens played that poorly. Henry rushed for 195 yards yes and we had to stop him. However Tannehill threw for a whopping 88 yards and Tennessee didnt stop the Ravens as much as the Ravens stop themselves. I mean the gave up over 500 yards of total offense. I know people will say that came in garbage time but I will asked people to rewatch the game. The Ravens marched up and down the field on the Titans and the Ravens mistakes stopped them more than Tennessee
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