Out routes and comebacks

[The Excellector]

Ken said the wind was a real issue and that Lamar was changing the way he was throwing the ball to account for it and that's why some of his balls were bad

We felt it a little early on, but felt it more as the game progressed, in the upper deck.

[edromeo]

I kept hearing the ~'struggling to throw outside the hashes' narrative today on various shows.

just wanted to count again:

7 outside throws
5 on target
1 interception bad decision after misreading the trap coverage
1 hit while throwing

[wickedsolo]

I kept hearing the ~'struggling to throw outside the hashes' narrative today on various shows.

just wanted to count again:

7 outside throws
5 on target
1 interception bad decision after misreading the trap coverage
1 hit while throwing

I think you're going to keep hearing this for two reasons.

1) A lot of Lamar's best passes are over the top or across the middle. He does really well when guys cross his face. Short and mid sideline patterns haven't been a focal point of this offense.

2) The out routes we saw against the Titans included an interception and a few ducks. Wind or not, being rushed or not, the passes weren't very pretty.

[edromeo]

I think you're going to keep hearing this for two reasons.

1) A lot of Lamar's best passes are over the top or across the middle. He does really well when guys cross his face. Short and mid sideline patterns haven't been a focal point of this offense.

2) The out routes we saw against the Titans included an interception and a few ducks. Wind or not, being rushed or not, the passes weren't very pretty.

I know i'm going to keep hearing it. I'm getting alarmingly used to hearing things repeated that aren't true from the media.


Anyhow.....i only saw 2 ducks, there was 1 duck which was still on target which was broken up by Adoree Jackson and the other duck he was hit during the throw.

[Bhcforlife]

I respect Ken's opinion but I really think blaming the wind is a stretch. I sit in the lower level pretty close to the field and it did not feel that significant to me. Not to the level that it should have been altering his throws. I've seen far worse wind in the 16 years I've been and seen far lesser QBs still be fine throwing the ball in it.

If it was then that's a real problem. We aren't in a dome and we aren't in a city that you can count on to have nice weather, especially late in the season and playoff time. The offense was not the same in the games this year where the weather wasn't optimal. Hopefully Lamar's team can find ways to simulate poor conditions during his offseason work. Wet balls, maybe some industrial fans or something to make some wind, etc.

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

I kept hearing the ~'struggling to throw outside the hashes' narrative today on various shows.

just wanted to count again:

7 outside throws
5 on target
1 interception bad decision after misreading the trap coverage
1 hit while throwing

Mind if I tweet this Eddy?

[The Excellector]

A throw can be on target, but still take too long to get there. That was a real issue. That wasn't some imaginary issue.

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

A throw can be on target, but still take too long to get there. That was a real issue. That wasn't some imaginary issue.

That's nto the narrative though, and it's proof that people don't actually pay attention.

People just say he's inaccurate outside the numbers. Inaccurate is the specific choice of word.

Like I said earlier in this thread, it's a timing issue. Which is why he doesn't struggle throwing deep balls down the sideline (comparable to his peers)

[The Excellector]

That's nto the narrative though, and it's proof that people don't actually pay attention.

People just say he's inaccurate outside the numbers. Inaccurate is the specific choice of word.

Like I said earlier in this thread, it's a timing issue. Which is why he doesn't struggle throwing deep balls down the sideline (comparable to his peers)

He clearly aims more when throwing to the outside, compared to the middle of the field, where he's more confident and fluid. That's the timing issue. He does that, because he's not as accurate on those throws. If someone wants to get hung up on the minute details of the narrative, it doesn't change that there is a real issue. It's like going to a game, clearly seeing what you see, and then going back rewatching it and trying to convince yourself that it wasn't as bad as it was.

[WrongBaldy]

So he good or no?

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

He clearly aims more when throwing to the outside, compared to the middle of the field, where he's more confident and fluid. That's the timing issue. He does that, because he's not as accurate on those throws. If someone wants to get hung up on the minute details of the narrative, it doesn't change that there is a real issue. It's like going to a game, clearly seeing what you see, and then going back rewatching it and trying to convince yourself that it wasn't as bad as it was.

Is there value in diagnosing the problem correctly? Serious question. You played the game. You know that's important.

It's not even remotely minute.

[The Excellector]

So he good or no?

He'll get there. This is only his second year.