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04-04-2020, 01:16 AM #277
Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
Their stats were nearly identical this year, with Claypool actually coming out slightly on top. Same way last year but with Mims coming out a bit further ahead. Claypool is coming from a largely basketball background in British Columbia so it took him some time to adjust to American football.
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Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
There was a time 15+ years ago where you wanted to avoid WRs out of the state of Michigan (Desmond Howard, Charles Rogers, David Terrell, Braylon Edwards), but that has run its course.
I looked at every WR drafted in the Big 10 in the last thirteen years....and found no real support for your theory.
Last year the #1 and #3 WRs in receiving yards were from the Big Ten (Thomas/Godwin). Both were under drafted severely at 47 and 83. DJ Moore was also 9th in yards. That's three Big 10 receivers drafted in the last four years in your top 10.
Allen Robinson was drafted too low.
Erik Decker was under drafted.
McLaurin appears to have been also.
In terms of busts, I found 1.5
AJ Jenkins was atrocious as San Francisco's pick at the #30 in 2012. He had a career 17/223/0 line as a 1st rounder.
Former Raven James Hardy (RIP) was another massive bust who did nothing, but least he was a 2nd rounder.
Teddy Ginn was originally slated as a bust, but just got done playing his 13th NFL season, so hard to beat that drum too hard.
This appears to be a great year for B12 WRs with Lamb, Mims, and Reagor, but let's see for sure a few years down the road. Maybe 10 years from now its Cephus, Peoples-Jones, and Hamler that we are talking about as the gems of this class.
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04-04-2020, 07:22 AM #279
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04-04-2020, 05:27 PM #280
Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
I don't think that scheme a player plays in matters once they're drafted since we're looking for attributes and skills that project to high level play. Receivers are only asked to do what the system requires so it's hard to figure out if they can run a particular route or they can't because they aren't asked to do it.
NFL offenses are starting to adopt spread concepts from college offenses that go across every major team in college football so now they can pick receivers who are comfortable playing in these concepts which means that they can contribute something while learning new skills on the job.
It doesn't matter to me what schools or conference they come from as long as they show that they can do something great in an offense.
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04-04-2020, 05:33 PM #281
Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
TOP 50 WRs, Yards Gained in 2019, By College Conference
AAC (5) - Courtland Sutton, Emmanuel Sanders, Robby Anderson, Cole Beasley, Anthony Miller
ACC (7) - DeVante Parker, DeAndre Hopkins, Tyler Boyd, Mike Williams, Jamison Crowder, Larry Fitzgerald, Sammy Watkins
BIG 10 (6) - Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, DJ Moore, Allen Robinson, Stefon Diggs, Terry McLaurin
BIG 12 (4) - Tyler Lockett, James Washington, Danny Amendola, Dede Westbrook
CUSA (0)
IND (2) - Golden Tate, Will Fuller
MAC (3) - Kenny Golladay, Julian Edelman, Diontae Johnson
MWC (2) - Michael Gallup, Davante Adams
PAC 12 (3) - Keenan Allen, Robert Woods, Marvin Jones
SEC (14) - Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Jarvis Landry, Mike Evans, AJ Brown, Odell Beckham, DJ Chark, DK Metcalf, Calvin Ridley, Randall Cobb, Deebo Samuel, Chris Conley, Darius Slayton, Christian Kirk
SUN (0)
NON-FBS (4) - Cooper Kupp, John Brown, Tyreek Hill, Tyrell WilliamsLast edited by WNCRavensFan; 04-04-2020 at 05:45 PM.
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04-04-2020, 06:06 PM #282Four-eyed Raven
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Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
Yeesh. That's a sobering thought.
Everyone says that the the '14 draft was "comparable". Here's how the first 20 WRs came off the board that time:
(with this year's top 20 prospects off NFL dotcom)
Posn Rnd Pick Player 2020 Prospect List WR1 1 4 Sammy Watkins Ceedee Lamb WR2 1 7 Mike Evans Jerry Jeudy WR3 1 12 Odell Beckham Henry Ruggs WR4 1 20 Brandin Cooks Laviska Shenault WR5 1 28 Kelvin Benjamin Tee Higgins WR6 2 39 Marqise Lee Justin Jefferson WR7 2 42 Jordan Matthews KJ Hamler WR8 2 45 Paul Richardson Michael Pittman WR9 2 53 Davante Adams Brandon Aiyuk WR10 2 56 Cody Latimer Chase Claypool WR11 2 61 Allen Robinson Denzel Mims WR12 2 63 Jarvis Landry Bryan Edwards WR13 3 86 Josh Huff Van Jefferson WR14 3 90 Donte Moncrief Antonio Gandy-golden WR15 3 91 John Brown Gabriel Davis WR16 3 97 Dri Archer Lynn Bowden WR17 4 104 Jalen Saunders Isaiah Hodgins WR18 4 106 Bruce Ellington Tyler Johnson WR19 4 115 Shaquelle Evans Quintez Cephus WR20 4 118 Martavis Bryant Kalija Lipscomb WR21 4 123 Kevin Norwood Trishton Jackson WR22 5 142 Ryan Grant Antonio Gibson
I could see them going a little faster this year. Like instead of 12 thru two rounds, maybe 15 thru two rounds. So we could be looking at WRs #12, 13, 14, 15 still being on the board at 55.
I dunno: I think DeCosta showed us last year that he's very attuned to The Need, The Need For Speed. He's said in interviews before he became GM that he thinks modern offenses need mismatch threats that force the defense to take special account. And this year he's talked about the undefendable offense.
The closer we get to it, the more I think he'll have taken a WR by pick #35 or 40 – very possibly in a trade-back scenario.
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04-04-2020, 06:43 PM #283
Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
I think we could see 9 or 10 off the board by 55, but bumping up Mims in lieu of Hamler or Pittman from that list.
I think Mims goes either 4th or 5th (behind the top three and possibly Jefferson), and I think there's a good chance those 5 are all gone by 28.
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04-05-2020, 12:11 AM #284Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
I read a lot of the conversation about Claypool and hadn't watched his film closely...i'm starting a dive on his film now and I gotta say i'm surprised about him based on what i'd heard
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04-08-2020, 08:07 PM #286
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Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
Good surprised.
I heard one of the guys I respect either DJ or Charles Davis say that Claypool might be TE convert.
Then the Senior Bowl started and he was killing dudes.
But weirdly he tested well at the combine and people seemed to be jumping all over themselves to show they weren't swayed by combine numbers.
So I expected his film would show the TE(ish) guy everyone was describing that didn't match-up to his testing numbers.
In short I thought his film wouldn't be good.
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04-08-2020, 11:56 PM #288
Re: An Even Closer Look: 2020 WR draft class
Yeah, he's more athletic than people expect.
I've haven't wanted a man this bad since the last time I walked in front of a mirror.
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