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12-04-2019, 05:19 PM #1
PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
This is a good time for us to critique PFFs grading system, with the season well established and the top two statistical teams in the league having played each other. I'll offer a few thoughts later.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/teams/baltimore-ravens/3/roster
Changes in score are from the San Fran game only
OFFENSE
90.6 Mark Andrews (+0.4)
90.1 Lamar Jackson (-0.9)
83.3 Ronnie Stanley (+0.4)
82.0 Mark Ingram (-0.5)
81.2 Marshal Yanda (-1.3)
74.9 Nick Boyle (-1.1)
74.9 Marquise Brown (-1.7)
72.1 Patrick Mekari (+2.6)
70.9 Orlando Brown Jr (-0.8)
70.8 Hayden Hurst (+3.1)
68.9 Gus Edwards (-1.2)
65.8 James Hurst (+3.9)
61.5 Miles Boykin (-0.7)
61.4 Willie Snead (-0.2)
59.7 Seth Roberts (-1.6)
58.2 Bradley Bozeman (+0.5)
56.8 Robert Griffin III (--)
54.1 Chris Moore (--)
50.3 Justice Hill (-1.0)
48.5 De'Anthony Thomas (--)
DEFENSE
82.3 Marcus Peters (-3.5)
77.6 Josh Bynes (-5.6)
76.5 Earl Thomas (+0.1)
75.2 Justin Ellis (+0.8)
72.6 Chuck Clark (-0.7)
71.8 Marlon Humphrey (-2.0)
71.6 Michael Pierce (+0.9)
71.5 Zach Sieler (--)
69.9 Jimmy Smith (+0.9)
69.5 Chris Wormley (+0.4)
68.9 Brandon Williams (-0.2)
68.4 Matthew Judon (-1.1)
67.3 L.J. Fort (+7.2)
66.1 Tyus Bowser (+1.7)
65.1 Brandon Carr (+1.4)
64.4 Brynden Trawick (--)
60.0 Iman Lewis-Marshall (--)
56.8 Jihad Ward (+0.5)
54.9 Jaylon Ferguson (-3.8)
52.2 Anthony Levine (--)
49.3 Patrick Onwuasor (+2.4)
43.7 Domata Peko (-6.3)
41.6 Anthony Averett (--)
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12-04-2019, 05:19 PM #2
Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
Here are some final grades for other players for reference. These are assuming they don't come back like Trawick just did.
81.2 DeShon Elliott
65.1 Pernell McPhee
63.0 Matt Skura
50.8 Daylon Mack
49.4 Tony Jefferson
And here are how players are faring who are on other teams now:
66.8 Bennett Jackson (Free Agent)
66.4 Maurice Canady (NYJ)
55.8 Tim Williams (GB)
55.7 Cyrus Jones (DEN)
55.2 Alex Lewis (NYJ)
53.8 Kenny Young (LAR)
51.5 Justin Bethel (NE)
50.2 Jermaine Eluemunor (NE)Last edited by WNCRavensFan; 12-04-2019 at 05:35 PM.
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12-04-2019, 05:20 PM #3
Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
In general, the players we noticed played bad dropped in overall score, and the players we noticed did well went up. Marcus Peters had a bad game tackling; he dropped. Jaylon Ferguson struggled on the edge; he dropped. Patrick Mekari held his own against tough competition; his score rose. But I have a few quibbles.
It seems PFF disagrees with our resident OL Expert Filmstudy, who gave Marshal Yanda an A and Ronnie Stanley a lower grade. PFF dropped Yanda's overall score which means his single game grade was lackluster. Who is more accurate? I'll go with our guy. But Yanda will probably end the season with his typical accolades.
Why in the world does Patrick Ricard NOT have a grade yet? Can't they at least separate him as FB and DT? Whatever.
The most glaring thing that I see is the low grade for Marlon Humphrey. I consider this a reasonable topic for debate at this point. He's allowed 46 completions on 81 targets with 6 break-ups. He's 8th in the league in Passer Rating Allowed (78.6). He's 6th in the league in YPR allowed (9.7) and 7th in yards per target (5.5). Giving up 5.5 yards per target with the WRs he's been matched up with should have him among the best rated CB, and yet he's something around 25th. It's disappointing to see.Last edited by WNCRavensFan; 12-04-2019 at 05:53 PM.
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12-04-2019, 05:36 PM #4Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
So Chris Moore makes one of the greatest special teams plays I’ve ever seen and he get graded so low it’s almost cut me territory. Yeah PFF makes a lot of sense. Some guys make a single play which saves a game or season. These PFF grades just fail to show the impact of a player.
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12-04-2019, 05:38 PM #5
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12-04-2019, 05:41 PM #6
Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
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Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
At the end of the day, I think what bothers me the most is how PFF grades gets pushed in mainstream media these days. They get pushed as if they're gospel. That's where I think I really take issue. If we were to try and come up with a grading system, none of us would bat 1.000, because grading systems of this nature generally don't work in a darn near, full contact sport with 22 moving parts. However, it's when these things get pushed as gospel straight from the Bible, that irks me as a fan.
"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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12-05-2019, 12:03 AM #8
Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
Do you have any examples of that, Ex?
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Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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12-05-2019, 12:46 AM #10
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Re: PFF Grades After Week 13 (San Francisco)
WNCRavensFan
Thank you for posting these
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12-05-2019, 08:53 AM #12
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