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Thread: Disappointment with Boykin
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Re: Disappointment with Boykin
3rd round draft pick who looks like he's learning the game, I'd like to see more but I he's not Perriman.
Expectations are the mother of disappointment....
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11-18-2019, 10:40 AM #26
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Well said.
I kept comparing my expectations to the output of Michael Gallup in his rookie year. Both were 3rd rounders, both were getting an opportunity (Hurns got hurt last year and he got a lot of PT).
Gallup's output was 33 catches for 507 yards and 2 TD.
Boykin through 8 games, when I did the "on pace for" article was on pace for 18 catches, 262 yards, 4 TD.
So yeah I felt pretty underwhelmed."Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
- Ray Lewis
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11-18-2019, 10:43 AM #27
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He’s blocking so well though
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11-18-2019, 10:51 AM #28Veteran Poster
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A victim of a fantastic pre-season more than anything else, since I don't recall anybody saying he was NFL ready when he was drafted. I still trust his upside, even if it takes a couple more years.
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11-18-2019, 11:22 AM #29
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"Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
- Ray Lewis
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Twitter: @ColeJacksonFB
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Re: Disappointment with Boykin
Not disappointed at all.
Not one bit.
This is not a volume passing offense.
It’s not even a passing offense.
It’s a run first offense with TE focused passing. The WRs are a distant 3rd fiddle by design. And the WR passing game features Hollywood Brown by design. Hollywood plays off the LOS and gets moved around to exploit schemed match-ups....weak CBs sometimes even S and occasionally LBs. The first TD of the season got Brown matched up man to man vs S.
Miles showed his skillset during training camp, preseason games and scrimmages.....he didn’t suddenly lose his skillset.
Miles and the WRs are fine.
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11-18-2019, 12:07 PM #31
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He's very raw at this point and there's little reason to use him when the team is winning this much.
His hands aren't good enough to be reliable like Hurst and his speed certainly isn't good enough to gain separation like Hollywood.
I'll give him credit for blocking his ass off though.
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11-18-2019, 01:12 PM #32
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The Ravens have had trouble with formation when in pistol diamond (Lamar + 3 in the backfield) since Lamar's first start. They're finally getting it corrected pre-snap, but players are definitely confused. At least it's not like the play against ARZ ( where Lamar motioned Boykin into an illegal formation
17/24 for 222 yards and 4 TDs overall, 1/6 for 12 yards in Q1, so 16/18 for 210 and 4 TDs after, which is 155.3 (just shy of perfect, YPA was 11.7, needs to be 12.5 for perfect).
Of his 16 targets, 6 look to me like they've been scripted. Twice they went to him at the start of H2 (ARZ, CLE). Both were at home, both had him lined up on the boundary to the left of the offense (and on the opponent's side). Twice he's gotten 2 targets on the 1st drive only to not receive another target (SEA, HOU).
They're definitely both contributing as blockers. Need to update the numbers, but through week 8 (Seattle game), here are the Ravens rushing numbers with each player on the field.
Number Name Real Snaps Run Snaps Run Snap % YPC TD 80Boykin1848948%5.76183Snead32615146%5.464
See similar stats for all 12 skill players (and for dropbacks) at this link (I'll try to update it tonight, will definitely by tomorrow night).
Formatted:
Name Targets Rec Yds AVG TD Long Mark Andrews447518.75151Mark Ingram II433712.33225Patrick Ricard33279.00010Marquise Brown422311.50017Nick Boyle322010.00013Hayden Hurst22168.00012Seth Roberts111515.00115Willie Snead IV32136.50010Justice Hill1199.0009Miles Boykin200-00TEAM272023511.75451Shared Google Folder with Ravens spreadsheets, nextGen charts, and more! Please share my content! (attribution to Twitter requested)
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11-18-2019, 01:38 PM #33Veteran Poster
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Re: Disappointment with Boykin
This offense could be even more deadly next year. With Boykin having an extra year of development and Hollywood fully healed. That would make Lamar even more dangerous because he wouldn't have to be The Guy. He could just feed the ball to his playmakers.
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11-18-2019, 01:43 PM #34
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This is why you don't work yourself up watching training camp practices and thinking it transfers to games that count.
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11-18-2019, 01:48 PM #35
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Talk to me this time next season. Waaaaay early to judge.
Never get in a fight with a pig; you both get muddy, and the pig likes it...
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11-18-2019, 02:12 PM #36
Re: Disappointment with Boykin
More disappointed in Jaleel Scott
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