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[organizedchaos21]

Data coming later.

You have 461 pass attempts for Lamar.

PFR has 401 attempts for Lamar on the season. Add in 38 for RG3 and one for Sam Koch, that's 440 pass attempts for Ravens on the season. Where's the 461 come from?

I have 460, not 461. That agrees with PFR (link). No throws from Sam Koch nor RG3 appear in that chart.

[JimZipCode]

Data coming later.



I have 460, not 461. That agrees with PFR (link). No throws from Sam Koch nor RG3 appear in that chart.

Ah: includes playoffs!

That's why this PFR page has different:

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/rav/2019.htm

Sorry; thanks.

[organizedchaos21]

Ah: includes playoffs!

That's why this PFR page has different:

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/rav/2019.htm

Sorry; thanks.

Thanks for checking!

[organizedchaos21]

Attempts and completions for passes 10 and 20+ yards downfield

10-19 Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
Jackson	53	97	55%	10	2
Mahomes	65	121	54%	4	2

20+ Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
Jackson	22	69	32%	9	2
Mahomes	33	69	48%	13	2

We can get a rough estimate of the "average" NFL QB by dividing the totals for everyone by 32 (don't quite have every throw though, so it's not perfect).

10-19 Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
NFL Total/32	69.22	123.56	56%	7.31	3.94

20+ Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
NFL Total/32	22.13	62.19	36%	6.06	3.97

[organizedchaos21]

Attempts and completions:
x<-15 &
x>15 &
y<10

This is more looking outside and short. I would be interested in that data.

15 yards is just outside the numbers (the outside edge of the numbers should be roughly 14.67 yards). I'm only going to do Lamar here, but let me know if you want comparison to other QBs. I'll break it down by each side first, then combine them.

Lamar	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
Left	37	42	88%	2	2
Right	34	47	72%	2	0
Total	71	89	80%	4	2

[edromeo]

10-19 Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
Jackson	53	97	55%	10	2
Mahomes	65	121	54%	4	2

20+ Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
Jackson	22	69	32%	9	2
Mahomes	33	69	48%	13	2

We can get a rough estimate of the "average" NFL QB by dividing the totals for everyone by 32 (don't quite have every throw though, so it's not perfect).

10-19 Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
NFL Total/32	69.22	123.56	56%	7.31	3.94

20+ Air Yards

Player	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
NFL Total/32	22.13	62.19	36%	6.06	3.97

I kinda thought/suspected that Lamar and Mahomes would comp well or better then people expected because Lamar's always been a good downfield passer.

Mahomes eclipses him farther downfield....i'm sure part of it is Mahomes aggressiveness and arm talent, part of it is scheme aggressiveness and part of it is talent. It helps when you have 3 receiver (4?) WRs that all run 4.4 or under.

[LittleG]

15 yards is just outside the numbers (the outside edge of the numbers should be roughly 14.67 yards). I'm only going to do Lamar here, but let me know if you want comparison to other QBs. I'll break it down by each side first, then combine them.

Lamar	Com	Att	Com%	TD	INT
Left	37	42	88%	2	2
Right	34	47	72%	2	0
Total	71	89	80%	4	2

Is about where I thought he would be Left but poor to the Right. Definitely needs to work on right side passing.

[LittleG]

I kinda thought/suspected that Lamar and Mahomes would comp well or better then people expected because Lamar's always been a good downfield passer.

Mahomes eclipses him farther downfield....i'm sure part of it is Mahomes aggressiveness and arm talent, part of it is scheme aggressiveness and part of it is talent. It helps when you have 3 receiver (4?) WRs that all run 4.4 or under.

Is it Mahomes, scheme OR the KC WRs? That is the question.

Can adopting some scheme concepts, upgrading the WRs allowing Jackson to get close to Mahomes?

IF he gets to 90% of Mahomes 20+ passing, his running should make up the difference.

[edromeo]

Is about where I thought he would be Left but poor to the Right. Definitely needs to work on right side passing.

Poor to the right? 72% w/ no INTs seems good.

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

wasn't the narrative that he was poor to the left?

Seems to me Lamar is good, relative to his peers, all over the field.

Work on the timing of those outside breaking routes and he'll be making every throw you need.

[edromeo]

wasn't the narrative that he was poor to the left?

Seems to me Lamar is good, relative to his peers, all over the field.

Work on the timing of those outside breaking routes and he'll be making every throw you need.

A receiver with crisp intermediate outside the numbers routes like a Van Jefferson would help.

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

A receiver with crisp intermediate outside the numbers routes like a Van Jefferson would help.

That's the need IMO. I like Boykin and he definitely has a bright future, but that's not his game.

I actually like Boykin as a big slot player. A lot of his ND film was nice quicker routes using an explosive first step. From the slot with his size and ability after the catch would be nice. Add in Lamar throwing seams and Boykin having the ups, there's a lot to like. Of course, he and Hollywood can move around, but I'd be interested in seeing Boykin in the slot a little bit if we bring in a boundary receiver like Jefferson, Mims, etc