your thoughts on this sad case where Texas jury rules against divorced dad trying to stop 7-year-old son’s gender transition

[darb72]

Bullshit. I only used the same condescending tone and smugness that is the standard on here. I urge you to point ME to Where I made a personal attack before I got them thrown at me.
I enjoy it too, especially when yall post so much factually wrong Things all the time, makes it easy to hit back. The fact that you enjoy by bringing my child and partner into it is only disgusting though. But like I said, you don’t Come across as a particularly pleasant individual in any thread on here. Quite the opposite.

Yeah, I said that! If you read my posts before accusing me of child abuse perhaps You’d see that. All I said is I Think Theres more to this story than what the alt right media portrays, or no jury anywhere would have come to the verdict they did. No freakin way.
And that I know of people that knew for their entire lives they had gender dysphoria and they would have benefited from not being made to feel it was wrong etc. Nowhere did I insinuate I think There should be any medication or surgery here, only that there shouldnt be any condemnation.
If you can keep your medival ways to just your profession and keep it out of modern day real life you might see this is not an extreme take.
As for your statements about what the mother have done, I can’t imagine them bring True given the verdict. But sure, prove it, and I’ll change my mind.

Way back when you first started posting. I believe multiple posters told you to stop with the personal shit, but you kept right on. I hadn't responded to you when you started up with me, so now here we are. As for us getting things wrong, you mean like me typing Sweden when I meant Finland? Oh, the horror, I got two of the Nordic countries mixed up in a quick two-second post referencing an argument we had a few months back. That's not exactly a backbreaking mistake, but you take the moral victories. By the way, Sweden is looking into UBI and has been for a while.

Gender dysphoria is a symptom, not the disease. Any psychologist worth a piss knows that. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25180172
Would you let an anorexic person have diet pills? Same damned thing. The problem your facing is that while I'm an expert in medieval literature, I hang around a bunch of modern liberals everyday at school so I'm constantly up to date on all their arguments.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ransition.html The Younger case.

The mother's lawyers have already said she's willing to use puberty blockers. Here's a study on those.https://www.acpeds.org/chemical-cast...t-for-children

The mother is being looked into for child abuse by the Texas AG, and the Texas Department of Family and Protective services.

Here's an a guy who went through transitioning to a woman only to have nothing change.https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1894076002/

Here's a nice little study from Sweden that shows post-op transgender people have higher rates of suicide even than pre-ops.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

Crawl back into your hole and cry about how mean Darb is to you.

[darb72]

Don't you find it kind of ironic that Boss of Antifa berates President Donald Trump for his personal attacks, for being brash, rude, crude when tweeting and fighting back etc. all the while he does the very same thing. Hmmmm.

Yep. To be perfectly fair I am a condescending ass, but only when people won't look at facts. Or when I'm bored and looking to argue.

[CarrollCoRaven]

Yep. To be perfectly fair I am a condescending ass, but only when people won't look at facts. Or when I'm bored and looking to argue.

Hey, your fine. Anyone who tries to justify or rationalize what that lunatic mother did or is trying to do to her child that young is not worth arguing with. It's flat out child abuse, plain and simple. There are no gray areas. I realize it's kinda fun to f-ck with him cause he'll bite on a bare hook, but I've decided to just ignore him. He's Filth on steroids.

[bossofataka]

Way back when you first started posting. I believe multiple posters told you to stop with the personal shit, but you kept right on. I hadn't responded to you when you started up with me, so now here we are.

What you believe is of little consequence when those beliefs are provably false. I went back and checked, it´s in the Democratic Primary thread btw, and not once do I use any personal attack. I am however as generalizing and using the same condescending tone as you and most others do here about liberals and democrats, only of course I do it about Trump and his supporters.
Funny, guess who actually makes the first truly personal attack, either way? YOU! Calling me a swedish idiot. That´s the first that is not a generalized one, and then you´re closely followed by Ditkas ofcourse. After that I´m as bad as you, almost. I have not though yet resorted to describing you as insane, inferior to me in every way, bashed the USA or EU as a whole any chance I get or mixed in your spouses and children. I do have limits to my doucheness, unlike some of you, who quite frankly are appalling, on so many levels. I also don´t feel the urge that you guys do to empower each other by jumping on the constant troll trains, I think the few liberals here can stand up for themselves just fine without me acting like the supporting cast of the classic school yard bully. Try it, it makes you seem a little more tolerable.

As for us getting things wrong, you mean like me typing Sweden when I meant Finland? Oh, the horror, I got two of the Nordic countries mixed up in a quick two-second post referencing an argument we had a few months back. That's not exactly a backbreaking mistake, but you take the moral victories.

In this case yes. But there are so many instances, from so many posters it´s sometimes hard to remeber who said what. But yes, you have many times mentioned the swedish UBI, the Nordic UBI, the failed nordic/swedish socialism (let me point out that no nordic country ever had a day of socialistic rule btw, but have been capitalistic countries all the way). I take it you´d have no problem with me mixing up Mexico and USA to prove points then? Like how awfully corrupt your government is, run by drug cartelles and such?
Also, you tried making a point of this study that no one quit theie jobs etc, which is completely invalid, since this study, conducted on 2000 trialists in FINLAND, was made only on people that didn´t have jobs. So you were basically wrong on everything.
I´m happy to bring up more of your mishaps if you want, such as your favourite mantra "climate amarmists completley ignore the medieval warm period bla bla". Only of course, it is addressed in every fucking IPCC report out there...

By the way, Sweden is looking into UBI and has been for a while.

No... it, we, aren´t. There isn´t a single party in our parliament, governing or opposition, that promotes it or has ever had it in their party programs. That there on and off has been a marginalised discussion among some scholars and economists, like everywhere, isn´t even close to what you´re saying here.
Not that I´m completley alien to the concept, but no, it is not being looked into here.

Gender dysphoria is a symptom, not the disease. Any psychologist worth a piss knows that. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25180172
Would you let an anorexic person have diet pills? Same damned thing. The problem your facing is that while I'm an expert in medieval literature, I hang around a bunch of modern liberals everyday at school so I'm constantly up to date on all their arguments.

Okay? Have I even suggested it´s a disease...? No, not at all.
No, it´s not the same thing, although I´m not an advocate for hormonal blockers as there´s not extensive research made into it. But like I said numerous times, I leave this battlefield primarily to peole that know these issues, preferably first hand. I suggest you do the same instead of jumping on an alt right bandwagon.
I´m honestly a little confused what your argument is here even?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ransition.html The Younger case.

Yes, I´ve read about it. I still see no proof of your claim, or Youngers claims. You do know this man is a proven liar too, right? I still find it hard, impossibel even, to believe any jury would rule in favour if it was as clear cut as he and his alt right internet champions claim this to be.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnsta.../#5390518e56fa

The mother's lawyers have already said she's willing to use puberty blockers. Here's a study on those.https://www.acpeds.org/chemical-cast...t-for-children

As I understand it that´s more a question pushed by the father, but I´m sure she might have said she´d be willing if the child is. I don´t know enough about her actual stance for the future, shés not been in the media like the father so.
And no, that´s not a study, it´s an artcile by a conservative advocacy group making their statement.

This is an actual study:

https://pediatrics.aappublications.o...41/4/e20173742

But, like I said, I´m no advocate for any medical or surgical methods at an early age, unless there´s no doubt among experts in that case.

The mother is being looked into for child abuse by the Texas AG, and the Texas Department of Family and Protective services.

That´s twisting it I´d say, as I understand it they´ve been instructed to investigate the case by republican politicians. But I have absolutley no problem with it being thoroughly investigated, as long as it´s done without pressure from the alt right.

Here's an a guy who went through transitioning to a woman only to have nothing change.https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1894076002/

Okay...? How many do you want me to link that says the opposite? Cause we both know that there´s a lot more of those. Completley pointless link, that also has nothing to do with this case as of now.

Here's a nice little study from Sweden that shows post-op transgender people have higher rates of suicide even than pre-ops.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

What??? Have you even read it? Seriously, it doesn´t say this AT ALL. Every bloody study made on this shows the EXACT opposite of what you´re saying. Besides, I´m not arguing that transgender people have much higher suicide rates than the general population, or that they´re often diagnosed with other, actual, mental health issues. All I´ve been saying is that condemnation provably isn´t the way to go. And that perhaps we should leave it to people that know how it is to have gender dysphoria or atleast have made extensive studies into it, rather than let the alt right media set the narrative.

Crawl back into your hole and cry about how mean Darb is to you.

No no, not yet. I will tire of your paranoia, conspiracies and lack of decency eventually I´m sure, but right now it´s kinda fun to fact check you bitter men while you spew fake news about every subject imaginable.
And I´m certainly not crying, I could be as big an ass like you, but like I said, I do have some limits. Like involving partners or accusing you of child abuse.

[bossofataka]

Hey, your fine. Anyone who tries to justify or rationalize what that lunatic mother did or is trying to do to her child that young is not worth arguing with. It's flat out child abuse, plain and simple. There are no gray areas. I realize it's kinda fun to f-ck with him cause he'll bite on a bare hook, but I've decided to just ignore him. He's Filth on steroids.

Lol, says the deep state-global-warming-cannibalism-middle east-is-a-shithole-do-you-have-anything-but-CNN-in-Sweden-guy, that never backed up a single claim he made about anything and only goes away silently from any argument when all hope is lost.
I don´t bite bare hooks, then I´d be at yours and darbs throats umpteen times a day. I usually ignore both your peculiar thread starts and darbs one liner baiting, unless I´m bored.

[Cornelious]

Why do conservative macho men get so triggered by someone else's sexual preference, orientation and/or expression? And a parent supporting their kid unconditionally through what is surely a hard time? It never ceases to be a curiosity to me. Some of you folks need a meditation practice!

[NCRAVEN]

Why do conservative macho men get so triggered by someone else's sexual preference, orientation and/or expression? And a parent supporting their kid unconditionally through what is surely a hard time? It never ceases to be a curiosity to me. Some of you folks need a meditation practice!

You call a Mom trying to make a 7 year old boy a girl "support"?

Man, you're twisted.

[Cornelious]

"Georgulas has secured a letter of recommendation for James to “receive a full psychological assessment for gender dysphoria and potentially take hormone blockers,”

This is hardly "forcing". You're so triggered you are making up words. You should probably avoid conversations that are so traumatizing to you.

Back to my question, "Why do conservative macho men get so triggered by someone else's sexual preference, orientation and/or expression? And a parent supporting their kid unconditionally through what is surely a hard time"?

[ravenmaniac4life]

Why do conservative macho men get so triggered by someone else's sexual preference, orientation and/or expression?

Nobody gives a shit. You pretending like they do doesn't make it so. Pretty ironic considering the topic at hand.

And a parent supporting their kid unconditionally through what is surely a hard time?

Pushing a 7 year old boy to be a girl isn't support. It's child abuse. You pretending that it is support doesn't make it so.

If you or anyone else was found to be doing this to a child...I'd report your ass to CPS.

[NCRAVEN]

"Georgulas has secured a letter of recommendation for James to “receive a full psychological assessment for gender dysphoria and potentially take hormone blockers,”

This is hardly "forcing". You're so triggered you are making up words. You should probably avoid conversations that are so traumatizing to you.

Back to my question, "Why do conservative macho men get so triggered by someone else's sexual preference, orientation and/or expression? And a parent supporting their kid unconditionally through what is surely a hard time"?

Who's triggered?

[Cornelious]

Nobody gives a shit. You pretending like they do doesn't make it so. Pretty ironic considering the topic at hand.





Pushing a 7 year old boy to be a girl isn't support. It's child abuse. You pretending that it is support doesn't make it so.

If you or anyone else was found to be doing this to a child...I'd report your ass to CPS.

Right! Buy no one gives a shit! Let's have a triggering contest between you and NC. Tough competition there for sure. Im giving it to right now with your macho man threat to report my ass to CPS. Get over it. It had zippo to do with you.

[Greg]

"Georgulas has secured a letter of recommendation for James to “receive a full psychological assessment for gender dysphoria and potentially take hormone blockers,”

This is hardly "forcing". You're so triggered you are making up words. You should probably avoid conversations that are so traumatizing to you.

Back to my question, "Why do conservative macho men get so triggered by someone else's sexual preference, orientation and/or expression? And a parent supporting their kid unconditionally through what is surely a hard time"?

So you want to let a 7-year-old make this decision and take hormone blockers that will basically castrate him (or do you prefer XY person?) such that he can never be a parent?