Justin Bethel Released

**BcRaven** · 10-23-2019, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by AngryBird

Agree with that. Bethel or an unproven mid-round draft pick. We gifted him to New England the second we released him.

AB, all draft picks are "unproven." It's not as though Bethel was some sort of player we couldn't do without. Not only have the Ravens had a decent draft run in the 4th round, but a pick like that can also be used as ammunition for a trade up in an earlier round. IMO releasing him, and recouping the 4th round pick, was a wise decision... Bc

**RavenIsh** · 10-23-2019, 03:47 PM

Come on guys. We're talking about a ST specialist. I'd rather the pick. I really think that this move was made because EDC is working on trade options. If not then the release wouldn't have happened.

**organizedchaos21** · 10-23-2019, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by RavenIsh

Come on guys. We're talking about a ST specialist. I'd rather the pick. I really think that this move was made because EDC is working on trade options. If not then the release wouldn't have happened.

How did cutting Bethel change anything with respect to a trade? It can't be a roster spot (they have one for McPhee). They can't trade the comp pick as it hasn't been awarded yet. Cutting Bethel opened up no cap space.

They could have held on to Bethel for another 2 weeks before cutting him and still regained the comp pick. The timing is very strange, and I don't think a trade explains it.

**Shrubbs** · 10-23-2019, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by RavenIsh

Come on guys. We're talking about a ST specialist. I'd rather the pick. I really think that this move was made because EDC is working on trade options. If not then the release wouldn't have happened.

A) We're talking about a 4th round pick. More than likely that player becomes a ST'er that's not as good as Bethel
B) If we were trying to clearing for a trade, why wouldn't we have it set up before we released the guy? It's been a while and still no trade...

**Jazz1988** · 10-23-2019, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by organizedchaos21

How did cutting Bethel change anything with respect to a trade? It can't be a roster spot (they have one for McPhee). They can't trade the comp pick as it hasn't been awarded yet. Cutting Bethel opened up no cap space.

They could have held on to Bethel for another 2 weeks before cutting him and still regained the comp pick. The timing is very strange, and I don't think a trade explains it.

Its possible Bethel could have demanded for his release. He probably wanted it now rather than later. It's not hard to believe that Bethel could have been aware of his chances of getting cut especially after seeing Brent Urban get released by The Titans. It's his agent job to keep him relevant in the league and to be able to play every season. Bethel is a pro bowl special teamer and special teams are already underrated in the league especially since still to this day special team coaches in NFL find it hard to get consideration as head coaches.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 10-24-2019, 06:20 AM

Number 1, I would have kept him.

Number 2, why not wait until closer to the week 10 deadline?

**Ortizer** · 10-24-2019, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by organizedchaos21

How did cutting Bethel change anything with respect to a trade? It can't be a roster spot (they have one for McPhee). They can't trade the comp pick as it hasn't been awarded yet. Cutting Bethel opened up no cap space.

They could have held on to Bethel for another 2 weeks before cutting him and still regained the comp pick. The timing is very strange, and I don't think a trade explains it.

Do they get cap space back now that he's in New England due to offsets?

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**organizedchaos21** · 10-24-2019, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Ortizer

Do they get cap space back now that he's in New England due to offsets?

According to Brian McFarland, no (or at least not yet). See the following Twitter exchange:

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Bethel has until the end of the season to decide. Until then, the remainder of his 2019 base salary counts against the Cap. If he takes it, it’s done, since it’s already counted. If he doesn’t take it, then the Ravens get credited that amount next yr.

Originally Posted by Andrew McFarland

Now that Bethel has signed with the Pat's does that affect his termination pay? I.e. Can he not take it because he has another salary for those games now?

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

No, Bethel can double dip if he chooses to and he has until the end of the season to decide. But, for the time being, the termination pay stays on the Ravens' Cap. There are no offsets.