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  1. #1

    Too Many Empty Sets

    This is a huge problem with the pass protection. The amount of empty sets we run gives defenses the green light to send heat and put instant pressure on Lamar. Especially with a big hole at LG/C in pass pro.

    Why can't G-Ro realize that we need to sacrifice the extra route for a RB in the backfield? Ingram is a great blitz pick up too. When Lamar has time he can go through his reads properly or see the run lanes clearly if no one is open.

    The issue with the quick pressure is that the pocket instantly gets skewered and it's a mess for Lamar to navigate, he's taken too many sacks in these situations and it's not his fault.

    Not only do you keep Ingram in as an extra blocker, but you now open up the option for a designed screen to kill the blitz.

    Stop with all the empty sets so often! Play it safe and protect first, worry about the route combinations second! All the route combos don't mean shit when there instant pressure constantly!





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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    I wholeheartedly agree. When Ive said this week that Roman needs to protect Lamar more this is really what I meant.

    Im still firmly Team Roman but he's gotta evolve to help the youngin out with protection, screens, etc.

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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    I don't really agree TBH.

    A lot of the reps we lost are off basic 1-on-1's. At some point you have to expect your guys to win those.
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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    I like empty sets.

    How many empty sets do you think theyre even calling per game? 5? 6?

    But this sounds like a question OrgChaos stats can address with data.

    At first blush my memory tells me that empty sets are an efficient and productive formation under GRo





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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    Quote Originally Posted by edromeo View Post
    I like empty sets.

    But this sounds like a question OrgChaos stats can address with data.

    At first blush my memory tells me that empty sets are an efficient and productive formation under GRo
    One thing to note is we run quite a few empty sets out of 12 and 11 personnel.
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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    They have their place but I absolutely agree
    Watch the 9ers last night, 2 backs almost 60% of snaps. Granted they use a FB more traditionally
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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    They have their place but I absolutely agree
    Watch the 9ers last night, 2 backs almost 60% of snaps. Granted they use a FB more traditionally
    Their line was an absolute bully against a very good defensive front.

    We really need a better line to do what G-Ro wants to do IMHO
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  8. Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    Quote Originally Posted by edromeo View Post
    I like empty sets.

    How many empty sets do you think theyre even calling per game? 5? 6?

    But this sounds like a question OrgChaos stats can address with data.

    At first blush my memory tells me that empty sets are an efficient and productive formation under GRo
    Working on it. Here's what I've got so far:
    34 spread snaps (ignores plays nullified by penalty).

    type snaps
    pass
    29
    sack
    2
    scramble
    2
    run
    1

    game snaps
    @MIA
    3
    ARZ
    10
    @KC
    6
    CLE
    4
    @PIT
    11

    personnel snaps
    01
    1
    02
    3
    11
    17
    12
    8
    13
    3
    21
    1
    22
    1

    down snaps
    1
    6
    2
    11
    3
    16
    4
    1
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    The only run was (what looked to us like) a designed QB draw on 3rd and 20 against ARZ (Q3, 00:56). It gained 19 yards.
    date q time down togo los detail
    2019.09.15
    3
    00:56
    3
    20
    ARZ 24
    (:56) (Shotgun) L.Jackson up the middle to ARZ 5 for 19 yards (J.Hicks).

    The two sacks came on Sunday:
    date q time down togo los detail
    2019.10.06
    2
    03:19
    3
    13
    PIT 45
    (3:19) (Shotgun) L.Jackson sacked at BLT 49 for -6 yards (V.Williams).
    2019.10.06
    5
    09:22
    2
    11
    BLT 24
    (9:22) (Shotgun) L.Jackson sacked at BLT 20 for -4 yards (B.Dupree).

    The two scrambles came against KC:
    date q time down togo los detail
    2019.09.22
    1
    06:02
    3
    10
    KC 16
    (6:02) (Shotgun) L.Jackson scrambles right end to KC 9 for 7 yards (A.Okafor).
    2019.09.22
    2
    06:03
    2
    17
    BLT 30
    (6:03) (Shotgun) L.Jackson scrambles right end pushed ob at BLT 34 for 4 yards (D.Nnadi).

    Separating passes into their own post.
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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    Quote Originally Posted by edromeo View Post
    Are we operating under a different definition of “Empty” Set?

    Empty Set= a formation with only the QB in the backfield?

    Or are we using Empty synonymously with Spread?
    With Lamar in the backfield, there is always the threat of a run. Those receivers MUST get open. The defense is always watching Lamar.





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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    IMO it means only QB in backfield
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    Re: Too Many Empty Sets

    Disregard my last post.
    I misread.





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