Greta Thunburg and the "climate crisis"

[ravenmaniac4life]

More than 500 scientists in climate research fields sent a “European Climate Declaration” to the Secretary General of the UN asking for an open debate on climate change.

https://clintel.nl/brief-clintel-aan-vn-baas-guterres/

Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific.

Scientists should openly address the uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real benefits as well as the imagined costs of adaptation to global warming, and the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of mitigation.

There is no statistical evidence that global warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and suchlike natural disasters, or making them more frequent. However, CO2-mitigation measures are as damaging as they are costly. For instance, wind turbines kill birds and bats, and palm-oil plantations destroy the biodiversity of the rainforests.

I agree.

Count me in the group that thinks we shouldn't be listening to a 16 year old child who claims her dreams and childhood were destroyed because of the climate and that the human race is about to become extinct.

Her speech yesterday at the UN was basically...“do what I want you to do or else you are an evil person."

This poor girl is bring used as a human shield in this crusade because you can't criticize her. If you do..."you're attacking a child." But who would use a child like this? Who would have a child pushing such radical political positions? Someone who is obsessed w/power. That's who.

Everyone should do themselves a favor and "duckduckgo" information on other political parties throughout history who used children the same way. You'll be shocked by the results...but then again...you probably won't be.

[CarrollCoRaven]

More than 500 scientists in climate research fields sent a “European Climate Declaration” to the Secretary General of the UN asking for an open debate on climate change.

https://clintel.nl/brief-clintel-aan-vn-baas-guterres/





I agree.

Count me in the group that thinks we shouldn't be listening to a 16 year old child who claims her dreams and childhood were destroyed because of the climate and that the human race is about to become extinct.

Her speech yesterday at the UN was basically...“do what I want you to do or else you are an evil person."

This poor girl is bring used as a human shield in this crusade because you can't criticize her. If you do..."you're attacking a child." But who would use a child like this? Who would have a child pushing such radical political positions? Someone who is obsessed w/power. That's who.

Everyone should do themselves a favor and "duckduckgo" information on other political parties throughout history who used children the same way. You'll be shocked by the results...but then again...you probably won't be.

She's the Democrat's new David Hogg. It's kind of sad that they need to parade these programmed kids out to try and get their socialist message out.

[NCRAVEN]

I felt bad for her. But at the same time I couldn't watch, it seem so phony and fake.

[ravenmaniac4life]

*In the 70's, we were told...
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

“If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but 11 degrees colder by the year 2000, This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.”

According to Life magazine...“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

*In January 2006 Al Gore predicted that we had ten years left before the planet turned into a “total frying pan.”

*In 2008...ABC News predicted that NYC would be underwater by June 2015.

*In 2008...Al Gore predicted that there is a 75% chance that the entire north polar ice cap would be completely melted within 5-7 years.

*On May 13th 2014, France’s foreign minister Laurent Fabius said that we only have 500 days to stop “climate chaos.” The Paris Climate Summit that year met 565 days after he said this. Lol.



Now, we have 12 years left according to a bartender from Queens? 10 years according to Bob O'Rourke? We're at the precipice of a human mass extinction according to Greta Thunberg?

I'm going out on a limb here to say..............nah.




I do agree that this issue should be debated and not forcefully pushed as something the US MUST address. Meanwhile...China is the New York Yankees of pollution and "climate crime" but they aren't really being held accountable are they?

[ravenmaniac4life]

Classic.

[bossofataka]

More than 500 scientists in climate research fields sent a “European Climate Declaration” to the Secretary General of the UN asking for an open debate on climate change.

https://clintel.nl/brief-clintel-aan-vn-baas-guterres/





I agree.

Count me in the group that thinks we shouldn't be listening to a 16 year old child who claims her dreams and childhood were destroyed because of the climate and that the human race is about to become extinct.

Her speech yesterday at the UN was basically...“do what I want you to do or else you are an evil person."

This poor girl is bring used as a human shield in this crusade because you can't criticize her. If you do..."you're attacking a child." But who would use a child like this? Who would have a child pushing such radical political positions? Someone who is obsessed w/power. That's who.

Everyone should do themselves a favor and "duckduckgo" information on other political parties throughout history who used children the same way. You'll be shocked by the results...but then again...you probably won't be.

You really need to check out how to actually quote someone, I saw you intentionally misquoting in the Democratic primary thread too. You can pretty much make the points you´re making without misquoting, although then they don´t look quite as stupid and clueless and ridiculous as you intend for them to look obviously. I guess that´s what you need when you´ve sided with The Donald. :D

Btw, what she usually says is exactly what you proclaim! That we should listen to science. Real science. Which there is pretty much none in the "call" youre posting. I know the swedish professor mentioned there very well. Long time global warming denier, professor of philosophy btw, not a scientist into anything climate related.

https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/09/06/...cuments-reveal

And trying to portray her as the face of any political party is completley false, she´s completley independent, paied by noone and has made it a thing to be and remain that.

I´m also maybe not that into it, and I do sort of think it´s lame by political leaders adn company co:s etc to wanna benefit from being seen with her. And if anything it´ll probably only add to her frustration.

[ravenmaniac4life]

You really need to check out how to actually quote someone, I saw you intentionally misquoting in the Democratic primary thread too. You can pretty much make the points you´re making without misquoting, although then they don´t look quite as stupid and clueless and ridiculous as you intend for them to look obviously. I guess that´s what you need when you´ve sided with The Donald. :D

Btw, what she usually says is exactly what you proclaim! That we should listen to science. Real science. Which there is pretty much none in the "call" youre posting. I know the swedish professor mentioned there very well. Long time global warming denier, professor of philosophy btw, not a scientist into anything climate related.

https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/09/06/...cuments-reveal

And trying to portray her as the face of any political party is completley false, she´s completley independent, paied by noone and has made it a thing to be and remain that.

I´m also maybe not that into it, and I do sort of think it´s lame by political leaders adn company co:s etc to wanna benefit from being seen with her. And if anything it´ll probably only add to her frustration.

So, which of the following is correct?

a) the world will end in 10-12 years due to climate change
b) we are at the beginning of the human race becoming extinct due to climate change
c) both are true
d) none are true

[NCRAVEN]

So, which of the following is correct?

a) the world will end in 10-12 years due to climate change
b) we are at the beginning of the human race becoming extinct due to climate change
c) both are true
d) none are true

All of the above???

[bossofataka]

So, which of the following is correct?

a) the world will end in 10-12 years due to climate change
b) we are at the beginning of the human race becoming extinct due to climate change
c) both are true
d) none are true

That would probably be a d. Not that it has anything to do with what I posted. Which is what I expect from you by now.
Tell me, who do you think knows most about climate science? Scientists that work in the field or philosophers and tech folk, whos "research is usually financed by oil industry etc?

[ravenmaniac4life]

That would probably be a d. Not that it has anything to do with what I posted. Which is what I expect from you by now.
Tell me, who do you think knows most about climate science? Scientists that work in the field or philosophers and tech folk, whos "research is usually financed by oil industry etc?

So, if none of it is true...why are politicians and Greta Thunburg saying it?

Why have none of the predictions come true?

Why isn't NYC under water?

Why aren't we wearing gas masks?

Why hasn't the polar ice cap completely melted?

Why did we have 500 days in 2014 to stop "climate chaos"...and then nothing happened?

[bossofataka]

So, if none of it is true...why are politicians and Greta Thunburg telling us this?

Answer my question, and I´ll answer yours.

[jonboy79]

So, if none of it is true...why are politicians and Greta Thunburg saying it?

Why have none of the predictions come true?

Why isn't NYC under water?

Why aren't we wearing gas masks?

Why hasn't the polar ice cap completely melted?

Why did we have 500 days in 2014 to stop "climate chaos"...and then nothing happened?

Greta is a tool that doesn’t have the critical thinking skills to understand her errors. She is little kore than a puppet with the politicians hand up here proverbial bottom.

As for the politicians of the world, quite simply and directly, it’s about control of the masses. This is the new religion. Back several hundred years religion was used as a method to control the populace, to get them to produce as de facto slaves, with an eye towards the afterlife.


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