The Coordinators - Breakdown of the Ravens Scheme

[PGCountyRaven85]

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[organizedchaos21]

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Here's the tweet thread linked above (I found the images difficult to read).

LAMAR JACKSON ran their offense from shotgun or pistol vs #dolphins Although he only ran 2 ZONE READ plays the entire game, the threat of his formation forced the defense to play “assignment defense” virtually TE entire game.

ASSIGNMENT DEFENSE (defensive coaches call it) assigns a player on every defensive call for the DIVE (RB), the QB and PITCH man for the option. The are very basic and sound in nature.

But many effective NFL defensive calls are designed to pressure the QB/passing game without much regard for option assignments. They are exotic in nature and very difficult to block because of their confusing alignments and stunts/blitz patterns.

By Jackson’s threat of the ZONE READ/RPO game by his GUN/PISTOL alignment, he forced the #Dolphins into playing VANILLA “assignment defenses” ... making it much easier on the offense to block all the plays for the balance of their whole offense.

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

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I'm not sure that's right. We have 4 ZR's and 1 power read

[edromeo]

I'm being very specific with what I'm saying for this exact reason. I no longer plan on saying "00" or "11" alone. I'll always say "11 personnel" (referring to the players on the field: 1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WRs) and "00 formation" (referring to how those players lined up: all players spread out wide). So, the Ravens had plays Sunday where they had Hill on the field (1X personnel), but no players in the backfield (00 formation).

I'm sure our terminology will evolve as we get deeper into the weeds, but this is an easy shorthand for me right now. Hope this helps!

I get it. But if you use the accepted personnel abbreviation for personnel groupings to additionally identify formations it will be confusing for people that are familiar with the abbreviations only for personnel groupings. I hope that makes sense.

For example seeing "00 formation" would be confusing for me. 00 personnel grouping I get.
I think as much as possible you guys should use the preexisting terminology and methods for labeling your work.

they had Hill on the field (1X personnel), but no players in the backfield (00 formation).

The typical way to refer to this play would be: 1X Empty

Then you could further describe the formation w/ trips (L/R), bunch (L/R), doubles, etc.....

The personnel and formation of the first play of the game would be:
20 Pistol Offset (R) Twins (R)

[edromeo]

If you are asking me, what I would want to see for the passing game


Formation/Personnel/Play type (sprint/boot/roll/play-action/RPO)/Down/Distance/Route breakdown/Target/Result

[edromeo]

Quarter, Time, QB position ie (Under Center, Shotgun, Pistol)

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

https://russellstreetreport.com/2019...om-heavy-sets/

Week 2 article.

12 personnel findings were sooooo cool to see. Roman has really impressed me.

[Mmcclend]

Who was it that said we were going to run the Veer?

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

Who was it that said we were going to run the Veer?

We did run one veer play and Lamar got whalloped.

BUT anyone calling this a high school offense...may need to find a new tag line.

[Mmcclend]

We did run one veer play and Lamar got whalloped.

BUT anyone calling this a high school offense...may need to find a new tag line.

There were alottttt of incorrect posters about our offense. I’m about create a crow eating thread.

[organizedchaos21]

Quarter, Time, QB position ie (Under Center, Shotgun, Pistol)

Need to confirm with film (and do some more work for pistol), but according to the play-by-play, only 1 non-kneel snap came from under center (TD pass to Hurst from goal line formation, Q2, 03:49).

Same caveats apply, but it looks like 6 non-kneel snaps under center against the Dolphins, all from the goal line:

Q	T	type	gain	los	detail
1	10:38	run	1	MIA 1	(10:38) M.Ingram right tackle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
2	01:46	run	2	MIA 2	(1:46) M.Ingram left tackle for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
3	08:03	pass	0	MIA 1	(8:03) L.Jackson pass incomplete short right to H.Hurst.
3	07:58	pass	1	MIA 1	(7:58) L.Jackson pass short left to P.Ricard for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
4	10:15	run	-1	MIA 2	(10:15) G.Edwards right tackle to MIA 3 for -1 yards (C.Wilkins; J.Baker).

In other words, the Ravens offense is only under center in goal line situations.


edit: I've now found a play that was labelled shotgun in the play by play but was actually under center (thanks to @abukari), so this project will have to go on hold for a week (it now requires charting)

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

Couple of interesting notes.

- A week after using PA on almost 50% of pass attempts, we only used it 13/37 attempts.
- I don't recall using a single RPO, though we didn't specifically chart that this week (they're not being used enough to show any trends right now).