QB Runs

[organizedchaos21]

Rough pass for game 2, while watching live. The times are wrong, they're closer to the end of the play than the beginning of the play.

Q1 10:00 Lamar zone read left no hit OOB
Q1 5:15 option keeper up middle hit-yes
Q1 0:45 fake handoff run left (option??) hit-no
Q2 8:20 roll right, looked to throw, ran right hit-no
Q2 7:40 scramble up middle hit-barely
Q2 7:00 fake handoff run left hit-yes
Q2 5:15 run up middle-left option no hit yes
Q3 14:30 Scramble up middle hit-yes
Q3 5:56 Scramble right, will be ruled a sack, hit-yes, Pen-horse collar
Q3 4:05 Run left option yes hit no
Q3 0:30 QB draw up middle hit-yes
Q4 10:40 scramble left hit no
Q4 7:20 Run wide left scramble yes hit no
Q4 3:10 scramble behind LOS, will be called a sack
Q4 1:13 kneel
Q4 0:30 kneel

I've got sacks and at least one penalty mixed up in here. Will clean this up later in the week.

q	time	type	gain	success	detail
1	10:01	run	19	1	(10:01) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left end pushed ob at ARZ 42 for 19 yards (D.Swearinger).
1	05:17	run	-1	0	(5:17) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left guard to ARZ 43 for -1 yards (C.Peters, J.Hicks).
1	00:51	run	16	1	(:51) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left end pushed ob at ARZ 22 for 16 yards (D.Swearinger).
2	08:26	run	6	1	(8:26) (No Huddle, Shotgun) L.Jackson right end pushed ob at BLT 21 for 6 yards (J.Hicks).
2	07:45	run	5	1	(7:45) (Shotgun) L.Jackson up the middle to BLT 26 for 5 yards (T.Suggs).
2	07:04	run	18	1	(7:04) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left end to BLT 44 for 18 yards (J.Hicks).
2	05:09	run	1	0	(5:09) (Shotgun) J.Hurst reported in as eligible. L.Jackson right guard to ARZ 11 for 1 yard (B.Baker).
2	01:10	run	0	0	(1:10) (Shotgun) L.Jackson Aborted. M.Skura FUMBLES at BLT 36, recovered by BLT-M.Yanda at BLT 34. M.Yanda to BLT 34 for no gain (R.Gunter).
3	14:29	run	11	1	(14:29) (Shotgun) L.Jackson up the middle to BLT 31 for 11 yards (B.Baker; T.Suggs).
3	04:08	run	9	1	(4:08) (Shotgun) L.Jackson right end ran ob at ARZ 28 for 9 yards (D.Swearinger).
3	00:56	run	19	0	(:56) (Shotgun) L.Jackson up the middle to ARZ 5 for 19 yards (J.Hicks).
4	10:30	run	10	1	(10:30) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left end ran ob at ARZ 38 for 10 yards (Ch.Jones).
4	07:25	run	14	1	(7:25) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left end pushed ob at BLT 45 for 14 yards (J.Hicks).
4	03:13	run	-5	0	(3:13) (Shotgun) L.Jackson up the middle to BLT 40 for -5 yards (Z.Allen).
4	01:21	kneel	-1	0	(1:21) L.Jackson kneels to ARZ 6 for -1 yards.
4	00:30	kneel	-1	0	(:30) L.Jackson kneels to ARZ 7 for -1 yards.

These are his 16 official carries (note 2 kneels and the stupid fumbled snap both count). You've correctly got (Q3, 05:56) which I would miss since the play was nullified by penalty. I'll check the other nullified plays tonight.

[JimZipCode]

These are his 16 official carries (note 2 kneels and the stupid fumbled snap both count).

SO helpful. Thanks!

[Ravenswintitle]

And the QBs that were hurt today are pocket guys

[JimZipCode]

Will clean this up later in the week.

Wups, never got back to this. Too caught up arguing the politics of players kneeling for the anthem, I guess.

Here's my rough notes for this week:

Q1 8:40 fake handoff Lamar off-tackle hit no
Q1 7:10 run left option yes hit no
Q1 5:00 scramble left (4th down!) hit yes
Q1 4:24 QB sweep left on 2-pt conversion try hit yes
Q2 12:40 Lamar scramble right hit yes (sack)
Q2 3:00 Lamar keeper left option maybe hit yes (loss of yards)
Q3 11:25 Run left option maybe (fake) hit no (OOB)
...
Q4 2:10 scramble right TD – scramble: yes – hit: a little

The ellipises represents that my wife had me make a quick run to the store during the 4th Q, to pick up some stuff she'd forgot.
Don't know if I missed any runs.

[Ravenswintitle]

Lamar just seemed confused and quick to spin around and look for an alley. They rushed 4 consistently (sometimes 3) and flooded the backfield.

[organizedchaos21]

Wups, never got back to this. Too caught up arguing the politics of players kneeling for the anthem, I guess.

Here's my rough notes for this week:

Q1 8:40 fake handoff Lamar off-tackle hit no
Q1 7:10 run left option yes hit no
Q1 5:00 scramble left (4th down!) hit yes
Q1 4:24 QB sweep left on 2-pt conversion try hit yes
Q2 12:40 Lamar scramble right hit yes (sack)
Q2 3:00 Lamar keeper left option maybe hit yes (loss of yards)
Q3 11:25 Run left option maybe (fake) hit no (OOB)
...
Q4 2:10 scramble right TD – scramble: yes – hit: a little

The ellipises represents that my wife had me make a quick run to the store during the 4th Q, to pick up some stuff she'd forgot.
Don't know if I missed any runs.

I'll try to fill in the blanks for you shortly. Don't forget to add in the hit that came after Snead's false start (Q2, 01:48)!

[JimZipCode]

Don't forget to add in the hit that came after Snead's false start (Q2, 01:48)!

Not a running play, or a play where Lamar pulled the ball down and transitioned to a scrambler. Just an "ordinary" sack, where the protection completely disintegrated against the pass rush, and Lamar got swamped.

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I never clarified exactly what I'm trying to do with this thread. I'm after something like, document how the Ravens "use" Lamar as a runner. Are they calling runs for him? Is he electing to keep it on options? Is he scrambling on called pass plays?

And as a corollary, how much "extra" punishment is Lamar taking, as a result of his running (and not throwing)? Normal sacks (and QB hits after throws) don't factor in; every QB gets those. It's just the hits on running plays, that I'm after.

It's a little vague, sorry.

[organizedchaos21]

q	time	type	gain	detail
1	08:44	run	6	(8:44) (Shotgun) L.Jackson right end pushed ob at KC 31 for 6 yards (K.Fuller).
1	07:13	run	5	(7:13) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left end pushed ob at KC 21 for 5 yards (C.Ward).
1	06:02	scramble	7	(6:02) (Shotgun) L.Jackson scrambles right end to KC 9 for 7 yards (A.Okafor).
1	05:08	scramble	7	(5:08) (Shotgun) L.Jackson scrambles left end to KC 2 for 7 yards (C.Ward; A.Hitchens).
2	06:03	scramble	4	(6:03) (Shotgun) L.Jackson scrambles right end pushed ob at BLT 34 for 4 yards (D.Nnadi).
2	03:00	run	0	(3:00) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left tackle to BLT 25 for no gain (D.Wilson).
3	11:28	run	8	(11:28) (Shotgun) L.Jackson left end pushed ob at KC 19 for 8 yards (K.Fuller).
4	02:10	scramble	9	(2:10) (Shotgun) L.Jackson scrambles right end for 9 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

[Jfoh]

LJ appears to be making a real effort to not take so many hits. About half the runs he runs out of bounds before he gets any hits. About a quarter of the time his hits are very minor. In fact I can’t recall more than one decent juts he has taken running the ball this year. Being mobile saves him from a lot of punishment when he does get hit. He can shift slightly so defenders don’t get a solid hit in him.

[JimZipCode]

Raw notes from game 4:

Q1 1:52 run right option-no scramble-no hit-no
Q2 10:15 QB sneak hit-yes (but converted!)
Q2 5:30 run left option-maybe (fake Ingram) hit-not really (stumbled after bump)
Q2 0:08 kneel
Q3 13:50 scramble left hit no
Q3 12:40 run left option yes hit yes
Q3 11:55 scramble middle (maybe sack)
Q4 14:50 up the middle option yes hit yes
Q4 13:00 QB sweep right for 1st down, option no hit no

Now that we got 4 games worth, I'll populate the table and see if we can get some pctgs on scrambles vs options etc.

[The Excellector]

He’s gonna hit 150, if he even lasts that long.

[edromeo]

R u going to include hit numbers?
How often is he getting hit per game based on the type of play?