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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by edromeo View Post
    I don’t �� Lamar would be a model for a ‘discount’ QB because his skill set is very rare and it will probably take a SB to validate him.
    I feel like you’re basing a lot off of a 7 game sample. Let’s re-assess a year from now once he has time in the offense.

    Russ Wilson had a similar stat line in his first 7 games - 8 tds, 7 int/2fumbles lost, 57.7% pass rating and only two games above 165 yards passing.





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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    I think we should have the expectation it’s going to take a while to gel.

    We have 8 big pieces that are rookie and sophomore players.

    Lamar
    Boykin
    Brown
    Hurst
    Andrews
    Hill
    Edwards

    Offenses have young players don’t get me wrong. But that’s a lot of guys.
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  3. #27

    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven View Post
    I think we should have the expectation it’s going to take a while to gel.

    We have 8 big pieces that are rookie and sophomore players.

    Lamar
    Boykin
    Brown
    Hurst
    Andrews
    Hill
    Edwards

    Offenses have young players don’t get me wrong. But that’s a lot of guys.
    Brown x 2 (Orlando and Hollywood)
    Plus we’re looking at potentially Powers at LG.





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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by bmoreravenous View Post
    Russ Wilson had a similar stat line in his first 7 games - 8 tds, 7 int/2fumbles lost, 57.7% pass rating and only two games above 165 yards passing.
    And an almost identical stat line for their first 3 years in college.





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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven View Post
    I think we should have the expectation it’s going to take a while to gel.

    We have 8 big pieces that are rookie and sophomore players.

    Lamar
    Boykin
    Brown
    Hurst
    Andrews
    Hill
    Edwards

    Offenses have young players don’t get me wrong. But that’s a lot of guys.
    Yes, 1000%.





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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven View Post
    I think we should have the expectation it’s going to take a while to gel.

    We have 8 big pieces that are rookie and sophomore players.

    Lamar
    Boykin
    Brown
    Hurst
    Andrews
    Hill
    Edwards

    Offenses have young players don’t get me wrong. But that’s a lot of guys.
    Don’t be ridiculous GWNR! These guys are All World and we’re bound for the Super Bowl! Damn ....can’t you be positive once in awhile! All this Reality talk will not be accepted and will be met with a flood of Propaganda!


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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by Laxdad24 View Post
    Don’t be ridiculous GWNR! These guys are All World and we’re bound for the Super Bowl! Damn ....can’t you be positive once in awhile! All this Reality talk will not be accepted and will be met with a flood of Propaganda!


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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven View Post
    I think we should have the expectation it’s going to take a while to gel.

    We have 8 big pieces that are rookie and sophomore players.

    Lamar
    Boykin
    Brown
    Hurst
    Andrews
    Hill
    Edwards

    Offenses have young players don’t get me wrong. But that’s a lot of guys.
    Yes, 1000%.





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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by bmoreravenous View Post
    I feel like you’re basing a lot off of a 7 game sample. Let’s re-assess a year from now once he has time in the offense.

    Russ Wilson had a similar stat line in his first 7 games - 8 tds, 7 int/2fumbles lost, 57.7% pass rating and only two games above 165 yards passing.
    Im confused 🤷 You seem to agree with me. And I’m not judging Lamar’s skill set from 7 games. His skill set is his skill set. His production will change. And players with Lamar’s skill set don’t come out every year. They are hard to find.

    As far as the Russell rookie stats comp...we agree.





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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by edromeo View Post
    IF the Ravens run the ball 55% they would be joining the swinging pendulum not swinging it for the first time.
    Nothing in the original post said anything about percentage of running plays Ed. You’re the one who’s distilling it down to that.

    The idea of the sea change in NFL offensive philosophy goes far beyond how many run v pass plays are called during a game.


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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven View Post
    We have 8 big pieces that are rookie and sophomore players.

    Lamar
    Boykin
    Brown
    Hurst
    Andrews
    Hill
    Edwards

    Offenses have young players don’t get me wrong. But that’s a lot of guys.
    10, counting Orlando Brown & Ben Powers.

    On the one hand, that's totally true.

    On the other hand, we could start the first series in Miami with no rookies on the field, and three 2nd-yr players:

    Stanley
    J Hurst
    Skura
    Yanda
    Zeus Deuce-Y2

    Boyle
    Mandrews-Y2
    Chris Moore
    Snead
    Ingram

    Lamar-Y2

    I'm not saying that's our best 11 (I'm sure it isn't). But I am saying that they've given themselves some options. That would probably be a reasonable, avg to low-avg offense – say in the #15 to 20 range. Better than we were in the first half of last season.

    That's enough to win some games with (paired with this defense), while the rookies get acclimated.

    The Ravens are in a position to pick their spots with the rookies, ease them in over the first quarter of the season. Grab a big play here & there, but not have to live with the every-down mistakes and unevenness that come with rookies. Use the steadier, experienced players to close out games, or march for a FG in the 2-min drill at the end of the first half, or whatever.

    Not saying that's what's gonna happen. I think the younger guys are going to get a ton of snaps. But the Ravens have positioned themselves well to have some insulation from rookie ups & downs.





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    Re: Outside Perspective & Theories of New Ravens Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by Laxdad24 View Post
    Don’t be ridiculous GWNR! These guys are All World and we’re bound for the Super Bowl! Damn ....can’t you be positive once in awhile! All this Reality talk will not be accepted and will be met with a flood of Propaganda!


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    Conversation about offense occurs. Lax jumps in and completely fabricates claims no one is making then 😂 talks of propaganda





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