The Trump phenomenon seen from overseas.

[blueridgemtnman]

Which means pretty much none of us care about what somebody half a world away thinks about our President.

If it were possible to actually care less what they think, I might give it a shot. Count me out on that one.

[darb72]

If it were possible to actually care less what they think, I might give it a shot. Count me out on that one.

Eh, I'm getting ready to go out for my anniversary so there's time to kill until my wife gets home from work. Other than that I wouldn't engage him.

[CarrollCoRaven]

Eh, I'm getting ready to go out for my anniversary so there's time to kill until my wife gets home from work. Other than that I wouldn't engage him.

Have a great anniversary, but my advice, don't wear a MAGA hat or you may be attacked or thrown out of the restaurant, yet conservatives are the violent ones.

[DitkasSausage]

Of course you don´t, and you sort of proves my point, unintentionally. But you seem to be a conservative one liner crusader, seeing you in various threads, with nothing to offer other than things like this.

You literally pointed out two things. One was completely based on your feelings and the other was the crap-bag, international giveaway of US money known as the Paris Accord.

How about this, we will contribute the % of money equivalent to the % of emissions of everyone else agrees? Good luck having China and India fork over 30% of that bill haha. Yet nobody calls out China for signing all of these agreements yet paying for none of them.
The US was asked to foot 85% of the bill and yet we only produce 14.5% of the carbon emissions (even while outpacing the top 25 countries combined in productivity/production by 5x). So we produce more using far less of a carbon footprint. You want to actually lower carbon emissions? Send all of the manufacturing done around the world to the US, who already has the top CO2 efficiency.
This is why we don’t care about the Paris Accord. It’s because it was another UN. Most Americans want to pull out of that Ponzi Scheme as well.

[darb72]

Have a great anniversary, but my advice, don't wear a MAGA hat or you may be attacked or thrown out of the restaurant, yet conservatives are the violent ones.

Thanks, but I live in Alabama, remember. MAGA is awesome down here.

[bossofataka]

You literally pointed out two things. One was completely based on your feelings and the other was the crap-bag, international giveaway of US money known as the Paris Accord.

How about this, we will contribute the % of money equivalent to the % of emissions of everyone else agrees? Good luck having China and India fork over 30% of that bill haha. Yet nobody calls out China for signing all of these agreements yet paying for none of them.
The US was asked to foot 85% of the bill and yet we only produce 14.5% of the carbon emissions (even while outpacing the top 25 countries combined in productivity/production by 5x). So we produce more using far less of a carbon footprint. You want to actually lower carbon emissions? Send all of the manufacturing done around the world to the US, who already has the top CO2 efficiency.
This is why we don’t care about the Paris Accord. It’s because it was another UN. Most Americans want to pull out of that Ponzi Scheme as well.

Just as I thought you couldn´t be any more stupid, ey...

Now, I´m gonna ask you kindly to provide prrof for these statements, which are false. But shoot, show me where it says the US was gonna pay 85% of the bill!
Show me the sources that say the US have the top co2 efficency!
I´m at work and don´t have the time now, but I´ll find you all you could possibly want on the subject later on. None of these statements are even remotley true, and it´s sad to see someone being so sure he´s right when he´s so dead wrong...

[bossofataka]

Nobody is denying that man has a small effect on climate, but if you think we're heading for some ecological disaster then you're even dumber than your posts have led me to believe.

Oh, some still do, but most can´t deny any longer, so those that denied 10-15 yeqars ago now claim the "small effect" of course. Wheather it will lead to a disaster in itself remains to be seen, but most that work in the field think so. Rarely do we see such consensus among scientists as on this topic. Bet hey, what do they know huh?

It's no where near as hot now as it was during the little ultimate a thousand years ago. Your ancestors grew corn in Greenland around the eleventh century, but the start of the little ice age forced 'em to move. Climate alarmism is bad comedy foisted upon the easily duped.

But it is. Most studies say it´s the same or even warmer now than, globally, then during the warmth period in the middle ages. Pretty sure the didn´t grow corn, some barley maybe, in the most extreme warem conditions every now and then. But it´s nat as Greenland was some tropical paradise then either is it, they starved loads and ate mostly meat. Climate alarmism as you call it is not even in dispute in the global scientific community any longer, it´s here and it´s real. Wheather it´s the biggest environmental problem, there are so many others, remains to be seen.

Carbon dioxide has gone up from 250 parts per million to 400 parts per million. Not a single computer model you alarmists have used has been accurate. Not a single one. On the other hand, we do have plenty of examples of climate alarmists fudging the data to fit their preconceived notions. The Brown study in 2013, the hockey stick graph, and the one that claimed oceans are getting hotter are three right off the top of my head.

Which is a lot. And it will go up a lot more and it will be a problem, it already is to some extent. That´s why it´s important to cut emissions, plant more trees, cause if we hit that threshhold where it starts rolling by itself, when oceans and trees can´t hide much of it as they have up until now, it becomes a serious problem.
Which computer models and what´s your point with this? That some computer model predicting climate are off doesn´t make the whole research of the IPCC invalid, I need you to show me what you´re refering to.

Then you claim that right-wingers are becoming more violent, and that's just a lie.

No, I did not. I think it might lead to that though, when they feel empowered by Trumps hateful agenda.

First off, democrats are far and away the more racists group. Don't believe me, then listen to how antisemitic they all are. Trump said the Squad should go back and fix their horrible countries of birth, then come back to tell the United States how to get better. AOC, Talib, and Ilhan have all directly called for violence against Jewish people. Now liberals are openly embracing Sharpton, who everybody knows is a racist. Then add in the blatantly racist/misogynist terms y'all use against people of color or women who don't vote like you think they should. Of course, you're gonna bring up violence. Pulse nightclub shooter, the democrat who shot up the Republican baseball team, Antifa, assaults on police officers, etc...

Eh, okay... youre buying into the Foxnews-esque version of the truth I see? what you state about AOC and the others, those are lies. Sharpton may have dubious history, but he doesnt come even close to Trumps little racist remarks and hints everywhere.
What some liberal americans might say about black people not voting dem is not something I know anything about, so cant say anything there.

Unlike democrats, Republicans call out folks on our side when they say racist shit. Trump told the people chanting, "Send her back" to stop it and condemned it. Steve King is the only actual racist I know of on the Republican side, and the party has stripped him of all committee memberships. Y'all praise violent terrorist and embrace racist.

Yeah... You have seen the video, right...? He doesnt tell them to stop, he stands there with a smug face for 12-13 seconds before continuing like nothing, and still smug looking. Then he lies when asked about it day after. This is not even up for debate. It´s just facts...

As for Trump being a bully, maybe if the men in Sweden actually had balls they wouldn't feel threatened?

I was waiting for somethign like that, all right wing males have such fascination with belittling others with remarks like this. Finally it came!
No, I don´t feel threatened by Trump, doubt anyone in this country does. It is all about decency. How to behave, how to speak to one another, how to build a better society, with less conflict etc. Never ever have I seen a man make things so much worse in tahta spect in such short a time. People like the Bushs and Reagan now seem like good ol chaps that one misses...

[DitkasSausage]

Just as I thought you couldn´t be any more stupid, ey...

Now, I´m gonna ask you kindly to provide prrof for these statements, which are false. But shoot, show me where it says the US was gonna pay 85% of the bill!
Show me the sources that say the US have the top co2 efficency!
I´m at work and don´t have the time now, but I´ll find you all you could possibly want on the subject later on. None of these statements are even remotley true, and it´s sad to see someone being so sure he´s right when he´s so dead wrong...

Forbes Article regarding the breakdown of the US having the fastest decline in US Carbon emissions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#79a5072f3535

Comprehensive view of CO2 emmission data by the World Bank that backs the Forbes Story: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...high_desc=true

Largest Food Exporter, and #4 in production (because China eats a lot): https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...the-world.html

Largest Producer of energy in the world (including top among clean energy sources): https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#34aed4fe1fab

We account for 20% of global production output: https://www.focus-economics.com/blog...s-in-the-world

Comprehensive view of who emits what % of CO2 and what industry they are related to: https://www.wri.org/blog/2017/04/int...theyve-changed

Cost to the US including 400k jobs, and $2.8T of our GDP: https://www.globalenergyinstitute.or...s-paris-pledge

*So as the top country leading the way in Greenhouse reduction, yet the top GDP country in the world, #1 in energy, and #3 in food, the top two contributors in CO2 emissions, I'd say I was pretty accurate. Meanwhile, India and China (#1 & #3) were held to lower standards while they are seeing massive INCREASES in CO2 emissions. In fact, Russia, was held to no standards at all per the Paris Accord. So the planet has seen a 2% increase, meanwhile, the US and UK are dramatically decreasing their footprint, and the rest of the world is dramatically increasing their output.... so naturally, the Paris Accord wanted to strip a majority of the manufacturing from the country that was #1 in clean energy sources, and actually reducing output while increasing the size and scale of its oil and ag output.

In other words... it was a socialist handout, with no authority, no teeth, and once again, the only countries that would be forced to be in compliance would be the US, and the UK...

[wickedsolo]

The intent of the Paris Climate Accord was positive. Of course it would be great if every first world nation made legitimate steps to cutting back on using fossil fuels.

My issue is that the agreement was basically low-key Marxism. It took money from the wealthiest nations (primarily the US) and distributed it to other nations. When one considers that Obama, at his core, is a global/social Marxist, then the PCA makes a ton of sense as to why he pushed for it.

Ultimately, the US has reduced its carbon footprint fairly substantially in the last year or so without being beholden to European countries. Ironically, a lot of the other countries that were part of the PCA actually increased their carbon footprint during the same time. This really shows that the PCA was an infective, bureaucratic piece of legislation aimed at increasing global Marxism.

Finally, if one really wants to take a hard stand against potential man-mad climate effects, how about we stop pointing the finger at Americans and look at the clusterfuck that is China and India. Talk about pollution and raping the earth of natural resources...




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[darb72]

Oh, some still do, but most can´t deny any longer, so those that denied 10-15 yeqars ago now claim the "small effect" of course. Wheather it will lead to a disaster in itself remains to be seen, but most that work in the field think so. Rarely do we see such consensus among scientists as on this topic. Bet hey, what do they know huh?



But it is. Most studies say it´s the same or even warmer now than, globally, then during the warmth period in the middle ages. Pretty sure the didn´t grow corn, some barley maybe, in the most extreme warem conditions every now and then. But it´s nat as Greenland was some tropical paradise then either is it, they starved loads and ate mostly meat. Climate alarmism as you call it is not even in dispute in the global scientific community any longer, it´s here and it´s real. Wheather it´s the biggest environmental problem, there are so many others, remains to be seen.



Which is a lot. And it will go up a lot more and it will be a problem, it already is to some extent. That´s why it´s important to cut emissions, plant more trees, cause if we hit that threshhold where it starts rolling by itself, when oceans and trees can´t hide much of it as they have up until now, it becomes a serious problem.
Which computer models and what´s your point with this? That some computer model predicting climate are off doesn´t make the whole research of the IPCC invalid, I need you to show me what you´re refering to.



No, I did not. I think it might lead to that though, when they feel empowered by Trumps hateful agenda.



Eh, okay... youre buying into the Foxnews-esque version of the truth I see? what you state about AOC and the others, those are lies. Sharpton may have dubious history, but he doesnt come even close to Trumps little racist remarks and hints everywhere.
What some liberal americans might say about black people not voting dem is not something I know anything about, so cant say anything there.



Yeah... You have seen the video, right...? He doesnt tell them to stop, he stands there with a smug face for 12-13 seconds before continuing like nothing, and still smug looking. Then he lies when asked about it day after. This is not even up for debate. It´s just facts...



I was waiting for somethign like that, all right wing males have such fascination with belittling others with remarks like this. Finally it came!
No, I don´t feel threatened by Trump, doubt anyone in this country does. It is all about decency. How to behave, how to speak to one another, how to build a better society, with less conflict etc. Never ever have I seen a man make things so much worse in tahta spect in such short a time. People like the Bushs and Reagan now seem like good ol chaps that one misses...

You're the one who started insulting people.

[NCRAVEN]

You're the one who started insulting people.

With his very first post, and kept doing it in just about everyone since.

[darb72]

With his very first post, and kept doing it in just about everyone since.

Yep. He's a troll, but apparently cathartic.