The “Squad”

[ravenmaniac4life]

It wasn't a statement. It's an official talking point that is repeated over and over and over and over and over and over by these bozos and has now been incessantly repeated by the other bozos running for President.

[CarrollCoRaven]

[QUOTE=wickedsolo;1700657]Different in that MSM and leftists are suggesting that CBP are doing these things on purpose, aren’t trying to be accommodating, abusive, etc.

House Dems dragged their feet forever passing any kind of budget for improving border facilities and capabilities (it wasn’t just $$$ for a wall).

That’s certainly part of the issue here.

Maybe the facility at McCallan, TX wouldn’t be at 300% capacity if there was budget put in place to deal with this issue before it became the crisis it currently is.

This and this.

For the longest time, the Democrats denied there was even a crisis at the border. Then they decided they could use the overcrowding as a photo op moment so the started agreeing it was a crisis. Then they show the kids in "cages" and the dead father and kid floating face down in the water, but refused to allocate money to help out. The truth is, they could end the crisis tomorrow if they wanted by passing some immigration reform laws but they don't want to. And this includes all Democrats and a decent number of Republicans as well. They need to do their friggin jobs that they are paid by us to do, but I know this will never happen.

[boller4president]

This isn’t surprising. Abby Johnson ran a fundraiser to get clothes, food, and materials to deliver to the detention centers since their supplies are low. Ended up filling a 16-wheeler. When they got down there, there was a bunch of Dem congressmembers with their one plastic crappy toy to hand to a child for a photo op. Abby asked them to help unload the truck and they refused. They don’t want to actually help these people... they want photos of them looking like they give a crap so they can pass pointless policy. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/abby...s-mcallentexas

Only 10-20 percent of asylum claims are granted depending on the year and that number has been steadily declining since more and more people try and abuse the process. However, I do want people with legitimate asylum claims to be processed but one sort of dead giveaway that they are not on the up and up is the people trying to enter the country illegally and only presenting themselves for asylum after being caught by border patrol.

The other thing the democrats never mention is these people are free at any time to leave under a policy of self-deportation they are choosing to stay and clog up the system for asylum seekers -- actual asylum seekers -- those who claim to care would try to prevent those abusing the system from A) Making the dangerous journey B) Clogging up the system which lowers the standard of care for those with legitimate claims. But rather then fix the immigration loopholes they would rather keep the perverse incentives to violate our borders in place which means if illegals are not caught they fade into the background never to be seen again and if they are caught strangely they are allowed to stay.

One of the changes I hope gets pushed hard for is those that enter the country illegally are deported automatically and prevented reentry and applying for asylum for 5 years. Instead Democrats are doing everything in their power to make it worse they don't see the illegals as people they see them as votes. One of the thing that is frustrating about Trump is he never makes the argument the consistent argument that advocating for illegal immigration is not compassionate it's not only a violation of the due process for those trying to come in legally. It also puts money into the hands of the cartels who use the same routes to smuggle people as they do drugs which klills americans and it also encourages them to bring women and children who are often trafficked and abused by gangs more then 70 percent according to studies. It has gotten so bad they are sending their kids with birth control as early as 5 years old.

Democrats don't care about any of that. For them if they aren't given a shower every 6 hours it's a humanitarian catastrophe. What a joke they are.

[WrongBaldy]

Well, I didn't read any further than the first "evidence" since the point was pretty clear. Twist, smear, repeat.

"On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US"

Trump did not call Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists. He said that there are people coming across the border illegally and that criminals and rapists were among them. That is not incorrect nor racist. And by the way, most of those crossing aren't Mexican, they're Guatemalan, Honduran, Costa Rican. So isn't labelling them all as Mexican more racist and ignorant?

Trump did not propose banning all Muslims from entering the US. Trump proposed a reduction in amount of refugees allowed entry, and restrictions on entry to the US for people from specific nations which were listed by Obama's Homeland Security department as National Security Risks. There were exceptions permitted. And the countries listed represented only 8% of the world's Muslim population.

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here is the first point to help you

• 1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

[DitkasSausage]

keep on reading
here is the first point to help you

The first project Donald Trump oversaw was completed in 1980.... He didn’t join the company until 1973 in an official capacity although he did clerical work starting in 1968, and the complaints were mostly prior to 1973. Was his Dad probably racist by today’s standards? Sure. In the 60’s/early 70’s, was America a different landscape? Yes. My grandfather was an awesome guy. Started a company out of his garage, and hired people of all ethnicities. He also said a lot of racist things... but he ran a great and fair company that treated its employees fairly and equally. He didn’t in the 60’s and early 70’s either because it was a different time.
So what is your point other than intentional ignorance? I bet your father and grandfather (and you) probably have said racist things about whites. Should I label you as a racist for any specific moment in your life you did something wrong?
You also failed to mention the next 45 years of his organizations work on improving the inner-cities and work with black community organizers. I’ll go with what a man does for 45 years of his life up to modern times rather than 2 years in his early 20’s because I’m not actively looking for reasons to hate a person and conjuring up racism that doesn’t exist.

[BPF2]

keep on reading
here is the first point to help you

The first project Donald Trump oversaw was completed in 1980.... He didn’t join the company until 1973 in an official capacity although he did clerical work starting in 1968, and the complaints were mostly prior to 1973. Was his Dad probably racist by today’s standards? Sure. In the 60’s/early 70’s, was America a different landscape? Yes. My grandfather was an awesome guy. Started a company out of his garage, and hired people of all ethnicities. He also said a lot of racist things... but he ran a great and fair company that treated its employees fairly and equally. He didn’t in the 60’s and early 70’s either because it was a different time.
So what is your point other than intentional ignorance? I bet your father and grandfather (and you) probably have said racist things about whites. Should I label you as a racist for any specific moment in your life you did something wrong?
You also failed to mention the next 45 years of his organizations work on improving the inner-cities and work with black community organizers. I’ll go with what a man does for 45 years of his life up to modern times rather than 2 years in his early 20’s because I’m not actively looking for reasons to hate a person and conjuring up racism that doesn’t exist.

Well, I kept reading at your request and had to stop again because it's all skewed drivel. In addition to Ditka's dismissal above of point #1, An African American contestant was dismissed on the Apprentice is a sign of racism? So only African Americans can win? He contemplated an AA team vs White team, openly calling it controversial, and never executed on it. He was offended by a Muslim Mosque at the WTC site - so did most of the country! Concern that Native American casinos weren't being run by Native Americans - he's right in some cases. The tribes contract out to casino corporations to run the casinos. Look at the Hard Rock Seminole in FL as an example.

[NCRAVEN]

keep on reading
here is the first point to help you

[DitkasSausage]

Well, I kept reading at your request and had to stop again because it's all skewed drivel. In addition to Ditka's dismissal above of point #1, An African American contestant was dismissed on the Apprentice is a sign of racism? So only African Americans can win? He contemplated an AA team vs White team, openly calling it controversial, and never executed on it. He was offended by a Muslim Mosque at the WTC site - so did most of the country! Concern that Native American casinos weren't being run by Native Americans - he's right in some cases. The tribes contract out to casino corporations to run the casinos. Look at the Hard Rock Seminole in FL as an example.

Baldy is more worried about “perceived racism” rather than real racism perpetrated in the open public. CNN had a commentator on that called Ben Carson a “House N....er” on air, and wasn’t questioned. Media completely ignored it.
John James ran for a MI seat as a Republican. Was called “boy” by Democrats.
Tim Scott is a black conservative. He’s been harassed and his house attacked by liberals by throwing paint on it. His wife and family being threatened with death. Openly called Uncle Tom. All by majority white liberals. Antifa just beat up a gay journalist. MSM openly ignored it.

Meanwhile, a Tea Party Rally, 2 years ago, invited BLM protestors on stage to speak their points and had an open dialogue. They gave them food and hugs by the end.

In general, you can focus all your “race lasers” on the GOP... but I’ll stick to calling democrats, the party who violently attack, physically and verbally, any POC who falls out of line, the racists who use minorities by feeding them division and lies purely as vote farms. But you keep focusing on verbiage that “could be” construed as racist. I’ll continue to focus on the open racists known as liberals. They openly make excuses and expect less from minorities. Conservatives don’t treat them like children, but as equals.

[Kyle Cactus]

This is an important point and a glaring criticism of the media. When Bush was President, the media hopped on every single thing he said as literal and dissected his words for weeks. Obama was President, and I pointed this out to my wife, there was a common saying in the media.... “Clearly what he meant to say was...” or “He was obviously trying to say...”. Once I pointed it out to my wife, she stopped watching MSNBC because she couldn’t stop hearing it. You don’t hear that phrase uttered ONCE under Trump. Nothing he says is taken figuratively. Nothing he says is clarified or given a positive lens. It is all bad, it is all taken literally, it is all dissected and washed with -isms.

I agree that it's important to grant good intention in a dialogue, but if someone is repeatedly ignorant and is unapologetic about it, it belies common sense to continue granting them good intention. For me that point came with Trump before he was even elected. He continues to spout ignorant statements, so I see no reason to change my opinion on that.

And we shouldn't automatically make the excuse that he's not a good messenger and use that to try to excuse the things he says. He's in a job where it's pretty important to be a good messenger. If he's as clever as his supporters think, he can find a way to make his points without sounding like an ignorant fool.

Trump loves America first and Americans second. He defends this country, sometimes to a fault, which tends to get him in trouble, since he is not a wordsmith or a Politician. He is far from Politically correct, which is refreshing, at times, and maddening at other times. His mouth is a double edged sword.

He loves himself first and himself second.

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For the record I can't stand The "Squad," but I'd rather see the leader of our country engage them on points of disagreement instead of ignorantly telling a group of people who were mostly born in the US to go back to where they came from. The US is where they came from.

[WrongBaldy]

oh boy
https://freebeacon.com/politics/omar...2GRbTpvWkEQm_s

[WrongBaldy]

The first project Donald Trump oversaw was completed in 1980.... He didn’t join the company until 1973 in an official capacity although he did clerical work starting in 1968, and the complaints were mostly prior to 1973. Was his Dad probably racist by today’s standards? Sure. In the 60’s/early 70’s, was America a different landscape? Yes. My grandfather was an awesome guy. Started a company out of his garage, and hired people of all ethnicities. He also said a lot of racist things... but he ran a great and fair company that treated its employees fairly and equally. He didn’t in the 60’s and early 70’s either because it was a different time.
So what is your point other than intentional ignorance? I bet your father and grandfather (and you) probably have said racist things about whites. Should I label you as a racist for any specific moment in your life you did something wrong?
You also failed to mention the next 45 years of his organizations work on improving the inner-cities and work with black community organizers. I’ll go with what a man does for 45 years of his life up to modern times rather than 2 years in his early 20’s because I’m not actively looking for reasons to hate a person and conjuring up racism that doesn’t exist.

Well, I kept reading at your request and had to stop again because it's all skewed drivel. In addition to Ditka's dismissal above of point #1, An African American contestant was dismissed on the Apprentice is a sign of racism? So only African Americans can win? He contemplated an AA team vs White team, openly calling it controversial, and never executed on it. He was offended by a Muslim Mosque at the WTC site - so did most of the country! Concern that Native American casinos weren't being run by Native Americans - he's right in some cases. The tribes contract out to casino corporations to run the casinos. Look at the Hard Rock Seminole in FL as an example.

here is another, lets see the mental gymnastics on this one LMAO

• 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

[WrongBaldy]

I agree that it's important to grant good intention in a dialogue, but if someone is repeatedly ignorant and is unapologetic about it, it belies common sense to continue granting them good intention. For me that point came with Trump before he was even elected. He continues to spout ignorant statements, so I see no reason to change my opinion on that.

And we shouldn't automatically make the excuse that he's not a good messenger and use that to try to excuse the things he says. He's in a job where it's pretty important to be a good messenger. If he's as clever as his supporters think, he can find a way to make his points without sounding like an ignorant fool.



He loves himself first and himself second.

...

For the record I can't stand The "Squad," but I'd rather see the leader of our country engage them on points of disagreement instead of ignorantly telling a group of people who were mostly born in the US to go back to where they came from. The US is where they came from.

captain bone spurs sure does lover amerika LOLZ