Pay the man

**Pope** · 07-13-2019, 08:45 PM

Matt Judon, he’s young and way better than others we’ve lost in the past. Z. Smith, P. Kruger, P. McPhee, etc... what does everyone think?

**The Excellector** · 07-13-2019, 08:48 PM

I wouldn’t pay Homer Simpson a damned thing.

**WNCRavensFan** · 07-13-2019, 08:54 PM

He's a nice player but inconsistent - below others in priority and I would likely let him go for a nice comp pick like Z. Smith, P. Kruger, P. McPhee, etc.

I think Smith is better than Judon right now, FTR

**Shrubbs** · 07-13-2019, 11:05 PM

I’m comfortable waiting and seeing how Judon (and maybe more importantly Ferguson, Williams, and Bowser) performs this season. If by the end of this season Judon proves he’s worth a mega deal, I’ll pay him a mega deal. If not, I’ll let someone else do so. I’m not in a rush to extend him, I’m inclined to let it play out.

**Ravskins** · 07-13-2019, 11:21 PM

Too early. I don't expect anything from Williams or Bowser but im excited to see Ferguson. I'm hoping he's a plug and player.

**Mark** · 07-14-2019, 07:54 AM

Adjust Judon's sack yardage to account for his personal foul penalties

**GOTA** · 07-14-2019, 07:54 AM

Judon needs to cut the stupid mistakes.

**Ravens75** · 07-14-2019, 08:14 AM

I’m paying Judon but only if proves he’s a difference maker this year. In other words he can be a 10 sack guy but if he’s not a game changer than I let someone else pay him. Suggs and Ngata never had all world numbers(arguably Suggs did in 2011) but they were game changers when the team needed a play. Judon has to be that guy or else move on for a comp pick. From what I’m seeing early on E.D. is paying game changers (Earl Thomas) while saving cap space for one of his picks on offense or to a lesser degree defense to blossom into a game changer. I like the philosophy. That’s the kind of mindset that Ozzie had but he failed in drafting difference making offensive players save for three(Ray Rice, Flacco and to a lesser degree Torrey Smith). Two got paid here, one somewhere else.

On a related note I’m hoping during the next CBA the players sacrifice the QB’s and put a cap on QB salaries. For Dak Prescott to feel he’s being low balled at $30-32 mil is ridiculous and threatens the competitive balance of the Cowboys and the game. Read up on the profitability of the packers from 2017 versus 2018. A 98% dip in profit due to Rodgers bonus and other staff financial obligations. It has to end.

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**00000** · 07-14-2019, 08:40 AM

It's easier said than done. If you think Judon is starting negotiations at anything other than the top of the market, you're fooling yourself.. Pass-rushers get PAID on the open market. Judon knows he's an ascending player primed for a big season. I think he is twice the player Z. Smith was and look what he got..

Now he clearly isnt in the same league as the elite pass-rushers but I don't think he is going to be easy to keep around.

**AmishlandRavenFan** · 07-14-2019, 10:00 AM

I'm not sure what folks are seeing. Maybe he'll take another step this year, but let's put some data into this discussion.

Including our playoff game:

7 sacks in 17 games

3 of 7 came in 1 game, against an awful Oakland; so in 16 other games, he averaged one sack per four.

In the last quarter of the season, plus the playoffs - 1 sack.

29 solo tackles

Tied for 38th in sacks for the year

Again, maybe he sets the world on fire this year, but to-date, nothing about his play screams "break the bank."

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**GOTA** · 07-14-2019, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Ravens75

I’m paying Judon but only if proves he’s a difference maker this year. In other words he can be a 10 sack guy but if he’s not a game changer than I let someone else pay him. Suggs and Ngata never had all world numbers(arguably Suggs did in 2011) but they were game changers when the team needed a play. Judon has to be that guy or else move on for a comp pick. From what I’m seeing early on E.D. is paying game changers (Earl Thomas) while saving cap space for one of his picks on offense or to a lesser degree defense to blossom into a game changer. I like the philosophy. That’s the kind of mindset that Ozzie had but he failed in drafting difference making offensive players save for three(Ray Rice, Flacco and to a lesser degree Torrey Smith). Two got paid here, one somewhere else.

On a related note I’m hoping during the next CBA the players sacrifice the QB’s and put a cap on QB salaries. For Dak Prescott to feel he’s being low balled at $30-32 mil is ridiculous and threatens the competitive balance of the Cowboys and the game. Read up on the profitability of the packers from 2017 versus 2018. A 98% dip in profit due to Rodgers bonus and other staff financial obligations. It has to end.

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I haven’t heard or a thing about a position cap. I can’t see the NFLPA ever agreeing to that. They want these massive contracts and having QBs routinely get paid that way helps their cause

**Ravens75** · 07-14-2019, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

I haven’t heard or a thing about a position cap. I can’t see the NFLPA ever agreeing to that. They want these massive contracts and having QBs routinely get paid that way helps their cause

I here you GOTA but the idea is that if they’re restrictions on QB salaries it may spread the wealth a little bit because the overall cap number will be the same.

What I don’t want to see is Josh Allen as a $40mil QB. That’s where he’s headed towards in his second contract.

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