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07-15-2019, 02:13 PM #49
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07-15-2019, 03:55 PM #50
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07-15-2019, 05:08 PM #51
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I still would like INDIVIDUAL healing times and genetics to be factored into these things when folks start discussing how long and injury SHOULD take. The truth is that it really is unknown and the time frames we see thrown around are best guesses based on previous occurrences. Sizzle and SSR both come to mind as "freak of nature" type athletes whose bodies seem to heal better/faster than the norm. Pain tolerance probably has a ton to do with that as well.
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Re: Will Hollywood be ready for TC
One issue with WRs and lisfranc is their responsibility in route running. There's a lot of starting and stopping. There's a lot of cutting, compared to other positions. What happens is that if you can't put enough pressure on that foot, you start to favor putting pressure on your heel. That overworks the back areas of the leg. Then, you start talking about the dreaded achilles. So, you really need to take your time with a lisfranc injury. Foot injuries period. Jonathan Ogden was a First Ballot Hall of Famer and it was a big toe injury that got him in the end.
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07-15-2019, 07:22 PM #53Hall Of Fame Poster
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I see what your saying Shrubbs, but a few weeks out of a potential great career to be sure is not a terrible thing. As it was said earlier. We wouldn't have him if he was fully healthy.
We also get to possibly find out what we have with a couple of the younger receivers not so high in draft status.
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07-16-2019, 12:50 AM #54Four-eyed Raven
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An Achilles rupture is a pretty extreme event. I think that would be unlikely.
But hamstring pulls and calf strains, those are definitely on the table.
Having said all that -- we're kind of working ourselves into a tizzy, over basically nothing, I read a little about Lisfrancs this afternoon.* At the milder end of the spectrum, treatment is just six weeks without bearing weight. Marquise had his surgery six months ago (on Jan 8).
So I mean, I'm being a little hypocritical there: the fact that Marquise even had surgery means it wasn't the very mildest form of Lisfranc. But that doesn't mean it was the most severe, either. We've all seen pics of Marquise walking around OTAs or minicamp, dicking around with a Jugs machine or whatever. He's been out of a walking boot for a long time; I think well before the draft. DeCosta said on day 1 of the draft that they'd seen results of different physicals; and footage of him doing rehab. That was three months ago. He said their conservative estimate was that he'd be ready for the start of TC.
If start of TC is "conservative", then that means start of season is likely.
I'd like the Ravens to be cautious with Marquise. Start him off slowly in camp; maybe just individual drills or whatever for the first week. Maybe keep him on a snap count for the first ~third of the season. Ramp him up over time. All of that makes sense to me.
But I'm not gonna just assume that Marquise is "behind schedule", or not on pace to be ready week one, or anything like that. We just haven't heard a thing that would indicate that. It's one thing to manage expectations about how much of a contributor he'll be as a rookie; it's another to jump to the conclusion that he's gonna miss camp.
Dammit, when the hell does Training Camp start, again??
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07-16-2019, 11:04 AM #55
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07-16-2019, 08:56 PM #56
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I have no idea how severe his injury was I was just curious.
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07-16-2019, 09:35 PM #57Four-eyed Raven
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07-17-2019, 12:32 AM #58Hall Of Fame Poster
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07-17-2019, 12:55 AM #59Pro Bowl Poster
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He needs to get the time in with Lamar so I hope he'll be ready soon. One thing that worries me is his skillset is really similar to John Brown and him and Lamar couldn't get on the same page at all last season. I think Marquise is more talented than Brown but they need to get the chemistry going because so far Lamar seems to prefer guys with bigger catch radius like the tight ends and Snead.
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07-17-2019, 06:01 AM #60Pro Bowl Poster
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