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**NCRAVEN** · 05-15-2019, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by blah3

Here's a good article that goes into how new world slavery was different than bible slavery.....

https://coldcasechristianity.com/wri...world-slavery/

Man... that context makes it seem as if it's nothing like what we think of when we think slavery.

**cjandrze** · 05-15-2019, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Man... that context makes it seem as if it's nothing like what we think of when we think slavery.

Other than the "Permanent Involuntary Pagan" part of it, seems pretty kosher per explanation.

**NCRAVEN** · 05-15-2019, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by cjandrze

Other than the "Permanent Involuntary Pagan" part of it, seems pretty kosher per explanation.

Well, they were caught/taken during/after a war.

Are you in the camp that we should release terrorist, or Taliban captured in a war? Or is it okay to keep them detained so they don't go rejoin the war?

**Laxdad24** · 05-15-2019, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Yeah. How does that relate to what we're talking about though?

All I said was ...you will find harsher / more laws about “moral” items in the South than anywhere else. The South is the Bible Belt. Always has been. The Church has a HUGE influence on those people and their politics. Not that all Northern States are Liberal but the Southern States are Waaaayyy more conservative than most. Issues like Abortion and Same Sex Marriage are always Hot Topics in the South. The only constant to that is the tie between The Church and The State. Even more Catholic states ....such as MD, Mass, Vermont ...the Church doesn’t have as strong a grip on politics as it does in the South. They used to ...we had a slew of “blue laws”. But not in today’s world.

“You gonna do something .....or just stand there and bleed” Wyatt Earp

**Laxdad24** · 05-15-2019, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Well, they were caught/taken during/after a war.

Are you in the camp that we should release terrorist, or Taliban captured in a war? Or is it okay to keep them detained so they don't go rejoin the war?

Obviously you detain enemy combatants. But we don’t make them slaves. We don’t make them pick cotton. Build pyramids. Dig canals. Hell we don’t even make them make license plates anymore. They are prisoners ...Not slaves.

“You gonna do something .....or just stand there and bleed” Wyatt Earp

**NCRAVEN** · 05-15-2019, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

Obviously you detain enemy combatants. But we don’t make them slaves. We don’t make them pick cotton. Build pyramids. Dig canals. Hell we don’t even make them make license plates anymore. They are prisoners ...Not slaves.

“You gonna do something .....or just stand there and bleed” Wyatt Earp

Again... you need to understand the difference between what we call slaves and what they meant by slaves.

if you read the article you would see that their "salves" would be treated better than someone we detain.

**cjandrze** · 05-15-2019, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Well, they were caught/taken during/after a war.

Are you in the camp that we should release terrorist, or Taliban captured in a war? Or is it okay to keep them detained so they don't go rejoin the war?

Does America use terrorist/Taliban as slaves? I hadn't heard that.

**NCRAVEN** · 05-15-2019, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by cjandrze

Does America use terrorist/Taliban as slaves? I hadn't heard that.

Oh you guys... It's hilarious the lengths you go to some times. See above.

**Laxdad24** · 05-15-2019, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Again... you need to understand the difference between what we call slaves and what they meant by slaves.

if you read the article you would see that their "salves" would be treated better than someone we detain.

But that’s someone’s interpretation of something in the Bible. It’s not fact. It’s an opinion. Not even yours. It’s someone else’s. What makes him right and me wrong? You can and have convinced me on other topics but to reference an opinion isn’t gonna do it.

When King’s ruled ..their people were “under “ them but were fed and protected by the Kings armies. The Egyptians beat and tortured the Hebrews. Not the same. That’s exactly how Southern Slave owners acted. “Nobles” sold and traded slaves from anywhere they found them. Not just Hebrews.

“You gonna do something .....or just stand there and bleed” Wyatt Earp

**NCRAVEN** · 05-15-2019, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

But that’s someone’s interpretation of something in the Bible. It’s not fact. It’s an opinion. Not even yours. It’s someone else’s. What makes him right and me wrong? You can and have convinced me on other topics but to reference an opinion isn’t gonna do it.

Well.. A) you're wrong, history also tells us what slavery was like in those times. But B) if you were right, than you're interpretation would also be an opinion, not a fact. So who's right?

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

When King’s ruled ..their people were “under “ them but were fed and protected by the Kings armies. The Egyptians beat and tortured the Hebrews. Not the same. That’s exactly how Southern Slave owners acted. “Nobles” sold and traded slaves from anywhere they found them. Not just Hebrews.

“You gonna do something .....or just stand there and bleed” Wyatt Earp

Yes and one type was condemned in the Bible and then according to the Bible God told Israel they had to do it differently, or a more humane way.

**blah3** · 05-15-2019, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Laxdad24

But that’s someone’s interpretation of something in the Bible. It’s not fact. It’s an opinion. Not even yours. It’s someone else’s. What makes him right and me wrong? You can and have convinced me on other topics but to reference an opinion isn’t gonna do it.

When King’s ruled ..their people were “under “ them but were fed and protected by the Kings armies. The Egyptians beat and tortured the Hebrews. Not the same. That’s exactly how Southern Slave owners acted. “Nobles” sold and traded slaves from anywhere they found them. Not just Hebrews.

“You gonna do something .....or just stand there and bleed” Wyatt Earp

How informed is the opinion of the writer discussed? I'm sure it's more than you or me or NC.
I mean it's FACT that the word slavery in the bible did not have the same meaning as slavery in the US.

**NCRAVEN** · 05-15-2019, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by blah3

How informed is the opinion of the writer discussed? I'm sure it's more than you or me or NC.
I mean it's FACT that the word slavery in the bible did not have the same meaning as slavery in the US.

I've read his books. The guy is a cold-case homicide detective, he's solved decades old crimes with no living witnesses. He applies those same methods of investigation to the Bible, he knows his shit. Doesn't make him right, but it makes him more qualified than anyone on here.