Mark Andrews ceiling

**JAB1985** · 04-18-2019, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by BHSU

His blocking was actually better than advertised last year. If I had to do a player comparison, I could see him becoming similar to Zach Ertz in terms of talent/role

I thought so as well. That was the main thing he had no experience of since he was basically a big slot in college, but i thought he showed some ability there as well.

Ertz may be a good comparison. Im not as familiar with his blocking ability as i havent watched many Eagles games lately. If he becomes another Greg Olsen, that would be high praise from me, as I thought hes been consistently the best complete TE outside of Gronk the last decade.

**PainServer52** · 04-18-2019, 02:45 PM

I think he can be a top 5 TE, I love his combination of size and speed and love his game. I remember he looked lost in the early preseason and you can see the improvements every game. He's gonna be a beast this year and he'll also be a steal very late in fantasy football drafts

**Bhcforlife** · 04-18-2019, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by JoeCool5

He'll be the best tight end in football in two years. Book it.

It's definitely possible. He has every attribute you could ask for to be the best in the league.

**JimZipCode** · 04-18-2019, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

He was virtually nothing other than a set of reliable hands attached to 80% the athlete Andrews is...

Well, in fairness, "a set of reliable hands" sounds pretty fucking good.

**JimZipCode** · 04-18-2019, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by ravensfan7716

But his ceiling stat wise I would expect to be 600-700 yards range. Soley because there is going to be a lack of targets most likely.

If he was on another team say Patriots, I could see him 900-1000 yard range as the primary TE

Difference between talent vs usage.

I agree with you that Andrews isn't likely to get the usage (targets) here to put up 900 or 1000 yds. I don't quite agree with you that Andrews is enough of an athlete to be that productive. I don't see him as quite the Gronk / Jimmy Graham / Kelce -level mismatch.

Damn good player, though. I'm glad to have him.

**JimZipCode** · 04-18-2019, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by BHSU

His blocking was actually better than advertised last year.

Agree. Based on his prospect profile, I expected him to be sawft. He was not.

**JimZipCode** · 04-18-2019, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Shrubbs

Andrews' ceiling is the Hall of Fame, and his floor is breaking every bone in his body and never seeing the field again.

That's not, y'know, terrible useful.

**The Excellector** · 04-18-2019, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by BHSU

I believe a lot of people mistaked his role in OK's system with him not being able to block at all.... he just had more use to them as a receiver than as a blocker. It wasn't that he couldn't do it at all. He needs development, sure, but that's because he wasn't asked to do too much of that in college and did not have as much experience as most of the other TE's did coming out

That’s a very sensible and logical explanation of why he was perceived the way he was coming out of Oklahoma.

**The Excellector** · 04-18-2019, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by BHSU

Thanks! When I hear that come from you I take that as an excellent compliment, Sword.

Well, I was down on him as a prospect, but you described some reasons why someone would feel the way I may have felt after watching his tape.

**usmccharles** · 04-19-2019, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by jonboy79

A. I think His ceiling is 90% of Travis Kielce.
B. He might already be as good as Pitta ever was. The Hero worship of that guy was always perplexing to me. He was virtually nothing other than a set of reliable hands attached to 80% the athlete Andrews is...

Gilmore (who I was stoked for) put up better numbers in the first two years if I recall correctly. Pittas love comes from the playoff run I believe.

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**Culex** · 04-19-2019, 01:34 AM

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**Shrubbs** · 04-19-2019, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by JimZipCode

Difference between talent vs usage.

I agree with you that Andrews isn't likely to get the usage (targets) here to put up 900 or 1000 yds. I don't quite agree with you that Andrews is enough of an athlete to be that productive. I don't see him as quite the Gronk / Jimmy Graham / Kelce -level mismatch.

Damn good player, though. I'm glad to have him.

Why wouldn’t Andrews get those kinds of targets? This offense has limited passing weapons, and largely flows throughout tight ends. I don’t think, down the line (projecting average improvement from Jackson) a 1,000 yard season is out of the question for Andrews, or even Hurst.