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"If you were starting a team..."
It's a question we hear every year (listening to it being discussed on talk radio right now). If you were starting a team from scratch, which young QB would you take?
I was wondering if that question is posed on message boards for every team in the league, what would the national fan consensus be about Lamar? How many young quarterbacks would fans rank ahead of him when it comes to future promise...and how many would Lamar edge out?
For reference, here are the 13 starting QBs still on their first contract:
Josh Allen
Sam Darnold
Jared Goff
Lamar Jackson
Patrick Mahomes
Baker Mayfield
Marcus Mariota
Josh Rosen
Dak Prescott
Mitchell Trubisky
Deshaun Watson
Carson Wentz
Jameis Winston
Personally, I probably put Lamar right in the middle but I really don't know what the national, novice point of view is. That is, how would fans weigh where Lamar was drafted (5th QB taken), his limited starts, the fact that he is a seen as a runner more than a passer (sustainable?)...versus a 6-1 rookie with unique skills that got his team into the playoffs (it factor)?
Which of these guys lands ahead of Lamar?Last edited by Shas; 01-03-2019 at 07:18 PM. Reason: Added Goff and Mariota, thank you OC21
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My list would be:
Mahomes
Mayfield
Watson
Wentz
Prescott
Trubisky
Jackson
Darnold
Allen
Rosen
Winston
But I will say the jury is still way out on all the rookies this year except Mayfield, who I think is going to be great for a long time.
Winston is probably a better QB right now than the four rookies ahead of him, but I would never choose him to lead my franchise.back on twitter
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01-03-2019, 06:10 PM #3Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: "If you were starting a team..."
I know I would take Mahomes first.
1st Mahomes
Tie for 2nd Wentz, Watson
big drop off
4th Mayfield
5th Prescott
6th Trubisky
7th Lamar
8th Darnold
9th Allen
10th Rosen
Not interested - Winston
This is right NOW. Too early though as Darnold, Allen, Rosen and LJ all have the potential to cleary move up list or down and off list.
Mahomes is the no-brainer with Wentz/Watson not far behind.
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01-03-2019, 06:15 PM #4
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No Goff? And if you're counting Winston, shouldn't Mariota be here too?
I'm going to slot Baker and Lamar together. They're both clearly ahead of the other rookies, and players like Winston, Mariota, and Dak don't move the needle for me. I'm glad I don't have to decide to sign any of them to a long-term deal. Wentz has some serious injury concerns now. I definitely wasn't a Trub believer, but maybe Nagy does enough to help him. That leaves Mahomes, Goff, and Watson. They're my top tier. Lamar, Baker, Wentz, and Trub slot into my 2nd tier. The rest can go into tier 3 and stay there.Shared Google Folder with Ravens spreadsheets, nextGen charts, and more! Please share my content! (attribution to Twitter requested)
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01-03-2019, 06:23 PM #5Regular 1st Stringer
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I think the quality of team helps LJ and Baker but hurts Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Darnold came on strong after his injury- completing like 65% of his passes (6 TD to 1 INT) in last 4 games. I think he is going to be a solid QB. They have little talent around him.
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01-03-2019, 06:24 PM #6Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: "If you were starting a team..."
Mahomes
Goff
Watson
Wentz
Mayfield
Trubinsky
Darnold
Jackson
Mariota
Prescott
Allen
Rosen
Winston
Wentz would be #2 on the list but for the injuries.
If I had my own franchise I would want my own franchise quarterback, and I don't think running quarterbacks are best suited to be guys you can expect to play for you for 10 or more years. I'll make an exception for Watson because he's proven himself to have a pretty good arm.Last edited by Tommy_Carcetti; 01-03-2019 at 07:53 PM.
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01-03-2019, 06:26 PM #7
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Mahomes without a doubt. Dude beat us and didn't even see where the ball was going, 6th sense...
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01-03-2019, 06:27 PM #9
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My list:
Patrick Mahomes
Baker Mayfield
Carson Wentz
Deshaun Watson
Mitchell Trubisky
Sam Darnold
Lamar Jackson
Dak Prescott
Jameis Winston
Josh Allen
Josh RosenNever get in a fight with a pig; you both get muddy, and the pig likes it...
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01-03-2019, 06:47 PM #10
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If I was starting a team, it would have only one Raven on it.............Who do you think that would be?
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01-03-2019, 06:54 PM #11
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01-03-2019, 06:58 PM #12Hall Of Fame Poster
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I'd for sure go with Mahommes, that kid is special and on another level right now.
I'd honestly put Goff next, now it may be Mcvay and or the roster around him but I watched probably 3 or 4 of their games this year and he looks great, especially in that KC game.
Third for me would be close between Watson Lamar and Baker but I'll go Lamar just because I'm a homer.
I can't recall another time when there were so many talented young quarterbacks. The league truly is changing from the idea years ago that rookie QBs had to sit for 3 years. As much as the nfl doesn't get right and has watered down the game in many ways, that is one thing they have going right now.
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