Jared Goff - Rookie

**HbgPARavenfan** · 12-12-2018, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Shrubbs

Baldy, I'll take overrated but convincingly winning the division any day.

It does help when Cousins is a choke artist and Green bay is a dumpster fire

**Shrubbs** · 12-12-2018, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

It does help when Cousins is a choke artist and Green bay is a dumpster fire

That's true, but look at the AFC North? Teams are all around or slightly below .500. Our division is weak too, but we're in second place.

**Goode05** · 12-12-2018, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Shrubbs

That's true, but look at the AFC North? Teams are all around or slightly below .500. Our division is weak too, but we're in second place.

Cleveland is on the rise, Pittsburgh isn’t done yet they still have two or so years left and Cincy got hit hard by injury. With Cleveland not being a doormat anymore you would have to think this is going to be possibly the best division in football next year

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**Culex** · 12-12-2018, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Goode05

Cleveland is on the rise, Pittsburgh isn’t done yet they still have two or so years left and Cincy got hit hard by injury. With Cleveland not being a doormat anymore you would have to think this is going to be possibly the best division in football next year

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Cleveland would be in the mix this year if they fired hue and started mayfield from the beginning.

**WrongBaldy** · 12-12-2018, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Culex

Cleveland would be in the mix this year if they fired hue and started mayfield from the beginning.

belee dat

they could of had 2 more easy wins this year

**RavenIsh** · 12-12-2018, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

belee dat

they could of had 2 more easy wins this year

I have a crazy feeling this last game is going to Garner a lot of interest.

**Ortizer** · 12-13-2018, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Shrubbs

I agree. Even if you're opposed to a HC change, at least let's get an inspired OC in here.

Maybe Marty rides off into the sunset after this year!

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**Goode05** · 12-14-2018, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

belee dat

they could of had 2 more easy wins this year

A competent Kicker and they beat Pittsburgh and the Saints

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**RavenIsh** · 12-14-2018, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

belee dat

they could of had 2 more easy wins this year

Belee dat and I'm good should be on tshirts. Lol

**RavenIsh** · 12-14-2018, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

belee dat

they could of had 2 more easy wins this year

I wonder if Baker we're here. Would there be "Baker haters"? Saying he's too short and the league will catch up with him. Then again he would have just been playing for four weeks and some here would have him a bust. Just like they do Lamar.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 12-14-2018, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Culex

Cleveland would be in the mix this year if they fired hue and started mayfield from the beginning.

the browns turnaround is literally shocking. no one will remember b/c they wont make the playoffs .... from what 1-32? to 5 or 6 wins in 1 season is beyond amazing

**HbgPARavenfan** · 12-14-2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by RavenIsh

I wonder if Baker we're here. Would there be "Baker haters"? Saying he's too short and the league will catch up with him. Then again he would have just been playing for four weeks and some here would have him a bust. Just like they do Lamar.

Baker has turned an 1-32 team into a 5 and maybe 6 win team....thats shocking by any standard