Lamar Comparisons

[tnsmith90]

He's no where near as polished a passer as Watson or Wilson were coming out of college.

That's a good point. Both of those guys were far more polished coming out, and that throws those comparisons out of whack.

Honestly, Vick really is the closest comp there is.

[Paintballguy]

Personally, I like the comparisons to the Philly version of Vick, and the current version of Russ Wilson. I don't think he is as smart as Wilson in terms of protecting himself, but the way he scrambles to keep plays alive in order to throw downfield is reminiscent of Wilson. Ultimately, I am hoping we get a better version of Philly Vick.

That's honestly the most accurate comparison IMO. He has the speed and running ability of Vick with the passing ability of Wilson.

[tnsmith90]

Really? Wasn't Watson's whole deal that he was an inaccurate passer and people were worried?

That was what his detractors tried to claim, but it wasn't a true concern. His career college completion percentage was 67.4%, he had multiple 4K+ passing yards seasons, and his career td/int ratio was pretty close to 3:1. He also performed on the highest stage against some of the best defenses in college football.

[crabcakes]

Marcus Mariota's first game he went 13/15 209 and 4tds... And that was week 1

[JimZipCode]

Deshaun Watson was a much better passer in college

No. Watson had a much better team around him in college. Lamar was approx as efficient a passer (similar ypa), but he did it with less.

[Jamal55]

I’d be pretty happy if he turns out to be Mike Vick with a work ethic.

[Laxdad24]

Marcus Mariota's first game he went 13/15 209 and 4tds... And that was week 1

But would you rather have Mariota or Watson for your Qb? Or Mahomes ? To me Mariota is a step above a bust. Him and Winston. Flops.


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[Paintballguy]

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2017dwatson.php

Deshaun Watson Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
Winner; Champion
Excellent character
Strong leadership skills
Work ethic
Mobility
Strong arm
Quick release
Flashes ability to make some beautiful throws
Tough; takes big hits
Can make all the throws required
Throws a catchable ball
Can pick up yards on the ground
Has some pocket presence
Great teammate
Very experienced against good competition
Gritty player
Difficult to sack
Upside
Resilient
Confident
Won a championship and two straight title games

Weaknesses:
Can be inaccurate
Poor ball placement
Ball security; throws too many interceptions
Field vision
Working through progressions
Will need to learn working under center
Will need to learn working a NFL huddle
Will need to improve footwork
Prone to throwing too high
Can stare down his primary read
Needs development for a pro-style offense
College offense inflated his stats
College offense ran lot of plays he won't run in the NFL
Tore an ACL in 2014

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingre...18ljackson.php

Lamar Jackson Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
Rare, incredible athlete
Rare arm talent
Strong arm
Instincts
Throws with good timing
Stands tall in the pocket
Throws knowing he is going to get hit
Has field vision
Works through progressions
Can beat good coverage with his arm and placement
Plenty of arm strength to go vertical
Able to make good off-platform throws
Pocket presence
Good ball placement and timing to lead receivers for yards after the catch
Amazing mobility
Rare running ability
Extremely fast runner
Threat to rip off long runs on any carry
Elusive in the open field; consistently jukes tacklers
Mobility to extend plays
Slippery runner and in the pocket; hard for defenders to square up
Difficult to sack
Mastered his offense; had full command of a more complex college system
Resilient
Confident
Developed field vision
Durable
Upside

Weaknesses:
Inaccurate
Poor footwork, which leads to inaccuracy
Thin frame
Needs to get stronger for the NFL
Too much of one of the guys; could stand to be more of a leader
Alarming wonderlic score (13)

[JimZipCode]

He's no where near as polished a passer as Watson ... coming out of college.

That's an interesting thing to say. Lamar and Watson both had approx the same number of pass attempts in college (Lamar had about 90% of the attempts Watson had), but Lamar played in a pro-style passing offense and Watson played in a simpler college offense. I would expect Lamar to be more "polished" at running an NFL passing offense.

[JimZipCode]

Marcus Mariota's first game he went 13/15 209 and 4tds. And that was week 1

Cam Newton also had an amazing debut, in week 1.

[Culex]

In my crystal ball I see...... Randall Cunningham

Bingo!!! That is who I see and they're built almost exactly the same.

[JimZipCode]

He[Lamar]'s no where near as polished a passer as ... Wilson coming out of college.

Wilson is an interesting comp. If you look at their stats thru three years of college, they're very similar:

Jackson college: 619 of 1086 (57.0%) for 9,043yds (8.3ypa) with 69 TDs and 27 INTs for a passer rating of 95.1
Wilson 1st three: 682 of 1180 (57.8%) for 8,545yds (7.2ypa) with 76 TDs and 26 INTs for a passer rating of 92.7
(that's NFL passer rating applied to college stats, not the college "rating")

Lamar looks like the better passer thru three seasons: same TD%, Lamar's yards-per is a full yard higher.
But then Wilson stayed for his senior season, and Lamar went to the NFL after 3.

So sure, Wilson was more "polished" on arrival in the NFL: he had a whole extra season of starting in college. Wilson turned 24 during his rookie season. Lamar is spending his 4th college season on the Ravens roster, playing in the NFL. He's 21.

Seems obvious to me that Lamar is far and away the better prospect. Doesn't mean he'll become a better player: growing as a player is for him to accomplish. But as a prospect Lamar is better and it's not close.



(BTW, Wilson turns 30 this month. I had no idea. He's not a "young QB" anymore, at all.)