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    Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Here's some stats on the Ravens pass-catchers thru 9 games:

    (Last post: https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...atchers-thru-7)
    (I forgot to do it after the Carolina game.)

    Player Rec Yds TD FD Tar YPT
    Maxx Williams 14 127 0 6 14 9.07
    John Brown 34 601 4 22 67 8.97
    Chris Moore 12 128 0 5 15 8.53
    Mark Andrews 21 244 2 17 32 7.63
    Willie Snead 45 448 1 26 69 6.49
    Michael Crabtree 41 472 2 25 76 6.21
    Hayden Hurst 4 57 1 2 10 5.70
    Nick Boyle 14 136 0 5 27 5.04
    Alex Collins 15 105 1 6 21 5.00
    Javorius Allen 35 196 2 11 43 4.56
    Tim White 1 14 0 1 1 14.00
    De'Lance Turner 2 17 0 0 2 8.50
    Gus Edwards 1 7 0 0 1 7.00
    Lamar Jackson 0 0 0 0 2 0.00
    (A few guys have only one or two targets thus far. I moved them down to the bottom of the table so as not to skew any "rankings".)


    A couple notes on this data:

    • Maxx's stats have not gone up. Brown's have gone down. I don't think Maxx has been on the injury report??? But I don't think he's seen a target in 3 weeks!
    • More Moore, please.
    • Hayden Hurst has made a decisive move up out of the cellar. Great to see.
    • Most everyone else's numbers have gone down, of course. Tough couple of weeks.

    I guess Thor took Maxx's snaps. It's great to see Thor start producing: but man, Maxx has been one of our most productive receivers this season. I'm not sure that completely removing him from the game plan, is really our best use of resources.

    You guys see anything else worth mentioning?





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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Its not surprising to see Maxx not get action considering HH is back in the line-up and Andrews is the 2nd rated rookie TE. Wierd that John Brown has only 90 yards less than Antonio Brown

    By the way, Ryan Grant has 270 yards and a TD with Andrew Luck
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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Maxx got passed rightfully so by Andrews. Andrews has the highest receiving grade out of all the Ravens TE's.





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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Quote Originally Posted by usmccharles View Post
    Its not surprising to see Maxx not get action considering HH is back in the line-up and Andrews is the 2nd rated rookie TE. Wierd that John Brown has only 90 yards less than Antonio Brown

    By the way, Ryan Grant has 270 yards and a TD with Andrew Luck
    The fact that Ozzie even tried to offer Grant a contract is laughable at best





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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Quote Originally Posted by BHSU View Post
    The fact that Ozzie even tried to offer Grant a contract is laughable at best
    I remember when the news came out, no shit my reaction was........Who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHSU View Post
    The fact that Ozzie even tried to offer Grant THAT contract is laughable at best
    FTFY

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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Maxx Williams was a healthy scratch against the Steelers. With Montgomery they probably won't be dressing 4 tight ends which is going to leave Maxx out since Boyle is only one of the group who can be relied on to block





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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Quote Originally Posted by usmccharles View Post
    By the way, Ryan Grant has 270 yards and a TD with Andrew Luck
    He's been out since sustaining an ankle injury mid-game in October. Expected back for their next game, I think?

    I still think, barring injury, that Grant will be more productive over the life of his contract than Crabtree will over the life of his.





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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    ...
    A couple notes on this data:

    • Maxx's stats have not gone up. Brown's have gone down. I don't think Maxx has been on the injury report??? But I don't think he's seen a target in 3 weeks!
    • More Moore, please.
    • Hayden Hurst has made a decisive move up out of the cellar. Great to see.
    • Most everyone else's numbers have gone down, of course. Tough couple of weeks.

    I guess Thor took Maxx's snaps. It's great to see Thor start producing: but man, Maxx has been one of our most productive receivers this season. I'm not sure that completely removing him from the game plan, is really our best use of resources.

    You guys see anything else worth mentioning?
    In my data, Maxx's last target came against the Browns. So, 4 weeks (@Ten, NO, @Car, Pit)! He has been inactive for the past two games though. Looks to me like you're correct that H. Hurst took Maxx's snaps.

    I think Hayden and Maxx bring different things to the table. Let me illustrate with a table. (I know my Brown and Allen yardage totals disagree with yours, I've found why and I'm contemplating how to fix it. Stupid laterals.)

    Player Catches Rec. Yards YAC Air Yards Avg. Depth of Target Avg. Depth of Completion
    J.Brown
    34
    603
    127
    476
    17.31
    14.00
    T.White
    1
    14
    0
    14
    14.00
    14.00
    M.Crabtree
    41
    472
    90
    382
    11.26
    9.32
    H.Hurst
    4
    57
    24
    33
    8.90
    8.25
    M.Andrews
    21
    244
    88
    156
    8.62
    7.43
    C.Moore
    12
    128
    36
    92
    8.53
    7.67
    W.Snead IV
    45
    448
    216
    232
    8.39
    5.16
    N.Boyle
    14
    136
    80
    56
    3.74
    4.00
    M.Williams
    14
    127
    84
    43
    3.07
    3.07
    G.Edwards
    1
    7
    4
    3
    3.00
    3.00
    J.Allen
    35
    204
    183
    21
    1.67
    0.60
    D.Turner
    2
    17
    14
    3
    1.50
    1.50
    A.Collins
    15
    105
    97
    8
    1.29
    0.53
    L.Jackson
    0
    0
    0
    0
    -1
    N/A

    Maxx has had a good season catching short passes and running after the catch. There's nothing wrong with that, but the Ravens have other players who can fill that role. H.Hurst has run deeper routes and (hopefully) brings something new to this offense. The Ravens have plenty of dudes who can catch short passes, and even some who can rumble for YAC on those plays. They badly need players who can go downfield, get open, and make catches.

    Here are the 'Air Yards' for each players' targets this season (bold indicates a completion):
    H.Hurst
    (21, 21, 15, 13, 13, 8, 1, 0, 0, -3)

    M.Williams
    (17, 13, 10, 4, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 0, -1, -2, -4, -5)


    (Lol, Nick Boyle has a deeper depth of catch than depth of target.)
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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Here's something else I whipped up for my other post but decided it didn't fit. Definition of Success remains the same (40% of yards to go on 1st down, 60% on 2nd, 100% on 3rd/4th).

    Player Targets Success Success %
    T.White
    1
    1
    100%
    D.Turner
    2
    2
    100%
    G.Edwards
    1
    1
    100%
    M.Andrews
    32
    20
    62%
    C.Moore
    15
    9
    60%
    M.Williams
    14
    8
    57%
    A.Collins
    21
    11
    52%
    W.Snead IV
    69
    34
    49%
    M.Crabtree
    76
    35
    46%
    J.Allen
    43
    19
    44%
    J.Brown
    67
    29
    43%
    N.Boyle
    27
    11
    41%
    H.Hurst
    10
    3
    30%
    No Target
    8
    0
    30%
    spike
    3
    0
    0%
    L.Jackson
    2
    0
    0%
    Totals
    391
    183
    47%
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    Main Sources: PFR, particularly the Play Index; RSR's Brian McFarland (secondary: OverTheCap, then Spotrac)





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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    One more. This one looks at Success Rate on Catches rather than Targets.
    Player Catches Success Success % | Catch
    T.White
    1
    1
    100%
    D.Turner
    2
    2
    100%
    G.Edwards
    1
    1
    100%
    M.Andrews
    21
    20
    95%
    J.Brown
    34
    29
    85%
    M.Crabtree
    41
    35
    85%
    N.Boyle
    14
    11
    79%
    W.Snead IV
    45
    34
    76%
    C.Moore
    12
    9
    75%
    H.Hurst
    4
    3
    75%
    A.Collins
    15
    11
    73%
    M.Williams
    14
    8
    57%
    J.Allen
    35
    19
    54%
    spike
    0
    0
    N/A
    L.Jackson
    0
    0
    N/A
    Totals
    239
    183
    77%
    Knight of the Kingdom of Perfect Play, Student of The Bill James School of Stamping Out Bullshit

    Main Sources: PFR, particularly the Play Index; RSR's Brian McFarland (secondary: OverTheCap, then Spotrac)





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    Re: Ravens pass catchers thru 9

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    He's been out since sustaining an ankle injury mid-game in October. Expected back for their next game, I think?

    I still think, barring injury, that Grant will be more productive over the life of his contract than Crabtree will over the life of his.
    move goal posts much. lets compare guaranteed monies lOL





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