Shotgun Blues?

**WrongBaldy** · 10-12-2018, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

The yards per play stats on the offense as a whole seems awful.

Any way of taking out the browns game to see what we were before that? 5 games in and one awful game can seriously disrupt the figures.

We seemed like a top 5 10 offense coming in to sunday, would be interesting to see where we rank in ypp if we take out our browns game

would the bills game pump up the numbers?

**arnie_uk** · 10-13-2018, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

would the bills game pump up the numbers?

The bills have the 6th ranked defense according to profootball reference. Why would that game pump numbers up?

**organizedchaos21** · 10-13-2018, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

would the bills game pump up the numbers?

I'll break it down game-by-game when I have a chance, but uh, there's not much further down to go.

**WrongBaldy** · 10-14-2018, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

The bills have the 6th ranked defense according to profootball reference. Why would that game pump numbers up?

bc ravens scored almsot 50 points that game

**arnie_uk** · 10-14-2018, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

bc ravens scored almsot 50 points that game

Thats my point.

We played so well for 4 games yet still have a bottom 3rd offense after the browns game. I wanted to see was it the browns game that caused that or are we still not an efficient offense.

**organizedchaos21** · 10-14-2018, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Thats my point.

We played so well for 4 games yet still have a bottom 3rd offense after the browns game. I wanted to see was it the browns game that caused that or are we still not an efficient offense.

(Still haven't done the work, but) I'm comfortable saying we are not an efficient offense. Even ignoring the league-wide offensive explosion of 2018, I don't think this offense would have been considered efficient in 2017. I don't think we can blame sample size or outliers here. They are who they are.

(Side note: the code I need to do this analysis is stuck on a different PC, so unless I rewrite all of the code, the analysis will have to wait until at least tomorrow. I could then update it with the wonderful totals from this afternoon's game though).

**WrongBaldy** · 10-14-2018, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by organizedchaos21

(Still haven't done the work, but) I'm comfortable saying we are not an efficient offense. Even ignoring the league-wide offensive explosion of 2018, I don't think this offense would have been considered efficient in 2017. I don't think we can blame sample size or outliers here. They are who they are.

(Side note: the code I need to do this analysis is stuck on a different PC, so unless I rewrite all of the code, the analysis will have to wait until at least tomorrow. I could then update it with the wonderful totals from this afternoon's game though).

thanks in advance

**arnie_uk** · 10-14-2018, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

thanks in advance

Seconded. No hurry. I just imagined we would have been top 1/3 in offense prior to that browns game, but i guess not

**organizedchaos21** · 10-14-2018, 02:46 PM

Opponent	Snaps	Total Yards	Runs	Rushing Yards	Passes	Passing Yards
Bills	74	369 (4.99)	34 (46%)	117 (3.44)	40 (54%)	252 (6.30)
Bengals	81	420 (5.19)	22 (27%)	66 (3.00)	59 (73%)	354 (6.00)
Broncos	70	342 (4.89)	28 (40%)	77 (2.75)	42 (60%)	265 (6.31)
Steelers	74	451 (6.09)	30 (46%)	96 (3.20)	44 (54%)	355 (8.07)
Browns	84	410 (4.88)	25 (30%)	116 (4.64)	59 (70%)	294 (4.98)
Titans	72	361 (5.01)	35 (49%)	123 (3.51)	37 (51%)	238 (6.43)

Totals	455	2353 (5.17)	174 (38%)	595 (3.42)	281 (62%)	1758 (6.26)

The Steelers game is actually the outlier. It includes what is by far the longest offensive play of the season (71 yards to Brown), so that probably shouldn't be surprising. That's the only play over 50 yards. They have 2 other plays for 40+ (both also to Brown).

**organizedchaos21** · 10-15-2018, 09:37 AM

Posting to bump after I edited the Titans into my previous post.

**srobert96** · 10-15-2018, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by organizedchaos21

Opponent	Snaps	Total Yards	Runs	Rushing Yards	Passes	Passing Yards
Bills	74	369 (4.99)	34 (46%)	117 (3.44)	40 (54%)	252 (6.30)
Bengals	81	420 (5.19)	22 (27%)	66 (3.00)	59 (73%)	354 (6.00)
Broncos	70	342 (4.89)	28 (40%)	77 (2.75)	42 (60%)	265 (6.31)
Steelers	74	451 (6.09)	30 (46%)	96 (3.20)	44 (54%)	355 (8.07)
Browns	84	410 (4.88)	25 (30%)	116 (4.64)	59 (70%)	294 (4.98)
Titans	72	361 (5.01)	35 (49%)	123 (3.51)	37 (51%)	238 (6.43)

Totals	455	2353 (5.17)	174 (38%)	595 (3.42)	281 (62%)	1758 (6.26)

The Steelers game is actually the outlier. It includes what is by far the longest offensive play of the season (71 yards to Brown), so that probably shouldn't be surprising. That's the only play over 50 yards. They have 2 other plays for 40+ (both also to Brown).

Also looks like the Browns game is an outlier. The YPC was much higher and the YPA passing was much lower. Steelers game YPA was an outlier. The run game needs to be more efficient. Have to cut down on the no gain and negative yardage plays.