The Cluster F that is the media

[Kyle Cactus]

If you want to...let’s look at a specific story and look at “the spin.” Look at John McCain’s death as the story.

MSM spin:
-McCain hated Trump
-McCain doesn’t want Trump at funeral
-Trump flying flag at half-mast for only 2 days is disrespectful to McCain

Rush spin:
-MSM using McCain death to vilify Trump

So the MSM spin is anti-trump. The Rush spin is anti-MSM. They're both spinning like tops.

My advice to anyone interested in politics...read it all and make up your own damn mind.

I'm with you there.

[Kyle Cactus]

its doing the right thing, just ask rav

You're allowed to think socialism is the right thing. I'm just confirming what you're viewpoint is. It's not my cup of tea, but to each their own.

[ravenmaniac4life]

You're allowed to think socialism is the right thing. I'm just confirming what you're viewpoint is. It's not my cup of tea, but to each their own.

Sure.

It’s a free society. People can believe anything they want. Right or wrong. Parents who are anti-vaccine are allowed to not get their kids vaccinated and then claim that not getting vaccinated didn’t effect their one kid who lived. In a free society, you can think however you want despite reality contradicting your opinion.

Just have the wherewithal to listen to someone who you don’t agree with and don’t steal their MAGA hat in class...then assault the teacher...then claim that MAGA hats are hateful while completely oblivious to their own hateful actions. This just happened, btw.

Lunacy has run amuck and the MSM keeps promoting the hate. IMO, it’s all intentional and sheeple follow the herd.

[ravenmaniac4life]

it is absolutely intentional to cause more racial divide, to bring more brainwashed masses to the left and because they want Control. They want to control everything from what you think to what you'll buy and consume.

100% truth. Every last word. It’s all about power.

[blueridgemtnman]

Which, if taken to the degree of saying that the gov't should take over a corporation, is clearly socialism.

Or communism.

[filthflarnfilth]

I have ABC News(aka Trump Crisis News) on and I've noticed when they aren't slamming Trump they are determined to start a race war. It's truly amazing. Lead story, white cop shoots black kid. He was found guilty, but they love to incite any kind of racial issue as far as they can push it.

Start a race war? That was started over 200 years ago. It Never stopped.

[Kyle Cactus]

Sure.

It’s a free society. People can believe anything they want. Right or wrong. Parents who are anti-vaccine are allowed to not get their kids vaccinated and then claim that not getting vaccinated didn’t effect their one kid who lived. In a free society, you can think however you want despite reality contradicting your opinion.

Just have the wherewithal to listen to someone who you don’t agree with and don’t steal their MAGA hat in class...then assault the teacher...then claim that MAGA hats are hateful while completely oblivious to their own hateful actions. This just happened, btw.

Lunacy has run amuck and the MSM keeps promoting the hate. IMO, it’s all intentional and sheeple follow the herd.

Yea, I'm sure there are a lot of ignorant people who do ignorant things to people who think differently. I don't think this equates to pointing out to someone that what they are suggesting is socialism ... if that was the point of the MAGA hat example.

As for the MSM, I guess my point is that the media generally is sensationalist and typically biased as well. It's what most people want to consume. I agree that it applies to the MSM, but, maybe unlike some here, I also think it applies to Fox News, Limbaugh, etc ...

Some of these outlets can still give insightful info, but it's important to be aware of their bias and know that you might not be getting the whole story (or might be completely missing other stories that would be important to you).

Personally, I like to read my news rather than watch or listen to it (not saying that that is in any way better). I like (roughly in order of they're left/right slant): The Atlantic, The Week, The Economist, Foreign Policy, Fiscal Times, National Review ...

If I read about a topic from a right leaning site, I like to also read an article that looks at it from the left. The reverse obviously applies. But I also try to question if either "side" are really giving me the underlying data/facts to support their conclusions so that I can examine them for myself. And I also try to consider that any given issue typically has a lot more than 2 positions.

[ravenmaniac4life]

Or communism.

By definition...that’s where the DNC has moved to. They seem ok with it.

[ravenmaniac4life]

Yea, I'm sure there are a lot of ignorant people who do ignorant things to people who think differently. I don't think this equates to pointing out to someone that what they are suggesting is socialism ... if that was the point of the MAGA hat example.

As for the MSM, I guess my point is that the media generally is sensationalist and typically biased as well. It's what most people want to consume. I agree that it applies to the MSM, but, maybe unlike some here, I also think it applies to Fox News, Limbaugh, etc ...

Some of these outlets can still give insightful info, but it's important to be aware of their bias and know that you might not be getting the whole story (or might be completely missing other stories that would be important to you).

Personally, I like to read my news rather than watch or listen to it (not saying that that is in any way better). I like (roughly in order of they're left/right slant): The Atlantic, The Week, The Economist, Foreign Policy, Fiscal Times, National Review ...

If I read about a topic from a right leaning site, I like to also read an article that looks at it from the left. The reverse obviously applies. But I also try to question if either "side" are really giving me the underlying data/facts to support their conclusions so that I can examine them for myself. And I also try to consider that any given issue typically has a lot more than 2 positions.

Great post. I agree with 84.6% of it.

[blah3]

Yea, I'm sure there are a lot of ignorant people who do ignorant things to people who think differently. I don't think this equates to pointing out to someone that what they are suggesting is socialism ... if that was the point of the MAGA hat example.

As for the MSM, I guess my point is that the media generally is sensationalist and typically biased as well. It's what most people want to consume. I agree that it applies to the MSM, but, maybe unlike some here, I also think it applies to Fox News, Limbaugh, etc ...

Some of these outlets can still give insightful info, but it's important to be aware of their bias and know that you might not be getting the whole story (or might be completely missing other stories that would be important to you).

Personally, I like to read my news rather than watch or listen to it (not saying that that is in any way better). I like (roughly in order of they're left/right slant): The Atlantic, The Week, The Economist, Foreign Policy, Fiscal Times, National Review ...

If I read about a topic from a right leaning site, I like to also read an article that looks at it from the left. The reverse obviously applies. But I also try to question if either "side" are really giving me the underlying data/facts to support their conclusions so that I can examine them for myself. And I also try to consider that any given issue typically has a lot more than 2 positions.

Here's the thing. Rush, Hannity, Levin all let you know they are conservative and all let you know they are not reporters.

Reuters, Atlantic, VOX, NYT, WaPo all try to pass themselves as non partisan 'news'.

[Kyle Cactus]

Here's the thing. Rush, Hannity, Levin all let you know they are conservative and all let you know they are not reporters.

Reuters, Atlantic, VOX, NYT, WaPo all try to pass themselves as non partisan 'news'.

Yea, I think that's a fair criticism. Although Fox does love to refer to itself as fair and balanced. I don't know that they are any more balanced than some of the other sources you listed here. But a discerning reader/listener/watcher will know what they are watching anyway.

[wickedsolo]

So you're into socialism then?

Govt controlled news would be more Fascist/dictatorial communism, wouldn't you say?

Not that the gov't doesn't already have their hands in the mainstream media...