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    Re: Lamar's Progress



    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    LJ isn't going to be playing in the regular season so I am not that worried about him getting hurt running. He is going to play the equivalent of about 2 more games. Obviously we need to keep RG3 so he will need some snaps, as will Flacco. Then LJ will sit most if not all of the season.

    My main concern is seeing his completion percentage go up.

    He looked a lot better in game 2 but he still needs to get to 60%.
    Yes Greg, and that's all we can expect at this stage of his career.
    It's a good sign... Bc

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    This is why I think they keep 3 qbs. No way LJ goes into the season as Flacco's only backup. He's a year away at least.
    I agree with this way of thinking. This should be a developmental, no pressure year for LJ.
    Perhaps in 2019 he will become the #2 or if the planets align, the #1... Bc





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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Raven View Post
    Winning will do that. If Flacco goes out and has the season of his career leading the Ravens deep into the playoffs, do you really think anyone will still be clamoring for an unknown QB who at this point is inaccurate, and just recently learned how to throw a spiral?

    LJ for me is promising Flacco insurance, but if this re-energized Flacco shows up for real in games and it lasts, why on earth would we want to see him ushered out the door for LJ. If Flacco bombs it's a different story, but right now he's their best bet to win with. I don't want to watch a losing season just to begin the LJ era.
    Indeed. If you want to "energize the fan base" then win games.

    Watching LJ's athletic abilities might be exciting but it will wear thin quickly with a few 5-6 win seasons.

    We need to see more Flacco. They should have left him in for another series last week. He looked great for one drive but we need more. The 2nd and 25 conversion to a first down is what impressed me. That and he hit many of his new targets to do so.





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    Quote Originally Posted by filthflarnfilth View Post
    Flacco is no Favre.
    And LJ is no Rodgers, certainly as far as passing ability.

    And I know I might take some flack here, but while Favre was a very good QB I frankly think he is overrated a bit. He won one SB and threw more INTs than anybody in history. Rodgers is better, and by a bit, IMO.





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    Quote Originally Posted by QuothDaRaven View Post
    I agree that winning is important and all true fans wanna see Flacco and the Ravens do well. Iím not advocating we start LJ now. Iím fine with him sitting. If our inconsistent (and Super Bowl winning) ďre-energizedĒ 33-going-on-34-year-old-monument-to-mediocrity has a season of his career, all the better for his trade value next year. The writing was on the wall the moment we drafted a first round QB.


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    It would be the height of stupidity to trade away a QB who has a great season for what is a crap shoot.

    I have a lot more confidence in Deshaun Watson than Lamar and Watson still has a lot to prove. Watson could bomb out. Kaepernick looked great for a few seasons, then the league caught up to him.

    If Flacco plays lights out this year I think he comes back next year, at least. And if he puts together 2 good seasons Jackson might be the trade bait. I know that will send some of you into cardiac arrest.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    It would be the height of stupidity to trade away a QB who has a great season for what is a crap shoot.

    I have a lot more confidence in Deshaun Watson than Lamar and Watson still has a lot to prove. Watson could bomb out. Kaepernick looked great for a few seasons, then the league caught up to him.

    If Flacco plays lights out this year I think he comes back next year, at least. And if he puts together 2 good seasons Jackson might be the trade bait. I know that will send some of you into cardiac arrest.
    Flacco will look better this year, almost by default (have you been watching him these last few years?!?!). And thatís awesome, and I hope we get another SB out of him. But we didnít draft LJ to trade him. Look at how many shots Boller got. Look at how many shots Elam got, and Perriman is still getting. If you know this team, you know we arenít trading our first round QB in year two, or three, or four. Heís on a cheap rookie contract (unlike Flacco), and the best case scenario for the team is not that our 35, 36, 37 year old underachieving QB suddenly ďgets itĒ and decides to play lights out. Itís that our young QB on his rookie contract plays well enough to win, and we use the extra cap space to sign Khalil Mack or some other superstars and inject some star power back into this team.

    Because the Ravens have been boring for a long time. Not just boring, but aggressively ulcer-inducingly PAINFUL, lol. Suggs is as close to a superstar as we have. LJ was drafted to be that next star, and he will get every single opportunity to shine. Iíve started to view some of the teamís decision-making through the lens of entertainment value and marketability, and Lamar Jackson isnít going anywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QuothDaRaven View Post
    Flacco will look better this year, almost by default (have you been watching him these last few years?!?!). And that’s awesome, and I hope we get another SB out of him. But we didn’t draft LJ to trade him. Look at how many shots Boller got. Look at how many shots Elam got, and Perriman is still getting. If you know this team, you know we aren’t trading our first round QB in year two, or three, or four. He’s on a cheap rookie contract (unlike Flacco), and the best case scenario for the team is not that our 35, 36, 37 year old underachieving QB suddenly “gets it” and decides to play lights out. It’s that our young QB on his rookie contract plays well enough to win, and we use the extra cap space to sign Khalil Mack or some other superstars and inject some star power back into this team.

    Because the Ravens have been boring for a long time. Not just boring, but aggressively ulcer-inducingly PAINFUL, lol. Suggs is as close to a superstar as we have. LJ was drafted to be that next star, and he will get every single opportunity to shine. I’ve started to view some of the team’s decision-making through the lens of entertainment value and marketability, and Lamar Jackson isn’t going anywhere.


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    Boller got a lot of shots because we had nothing else. And they brought in McNair during that time. Keeping Flacco would be essentially getting McNair. LJ is going to have to show he can win games and from the pocket. Running QBs, as has been said over and over, don't last long. Wilson is only because he can throw the ball.

    If Flacco wins a SB per your scenario it would be criminally stupid to move on from him for a guy that isn't going to last much longer than Flacco given his age. LJ has to stay in the pocket and move the team with his arm to show he can be the guy for more than 4-5 years.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Boller got a lot of shots because we had nothing else. And they brought in McNair during that time. Keeping Flacco would be essentially getting McNair. LJ is going to have to show he can win games and from the pocket. Running QBs, as has been said over and over, don't last long. Wilson is only because he can throw the ball.

    If Flacco wins a SB per your scenario it would be criminally stupid to move on from him for a guy that isn't going to last much longer than Flacco given his age. LJ has to stay in the pocket and move the team with his arm to show he can be the guy for more than 4-5 years.
    Itís way too premature to say either way. I hope we win, whether itís with Flacco or LJ. We know what Flaccoís ceiling is, and his floor, and we know heís been living near his floor far more than his ceiling for the majority of his giant contract. Letís see how it goes, fortunately thereís no impetus to move LJ anywhere for financial reasons (in fact the opposite), but thereís definitely pressure, both financial and from an entertainment standpoint, to move on from Flacco. And the team knows it, or else they wouldnít have moved up to draft a first round QB. Writingís on the wall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    And LJ is no Rodgers, certainly as far as passing ability.

    And I know I might take some flack here, but while Favre was a very good QB I frankly think he is overrated a bit. He won one SB and threw more INTs than anybody in history. Rodgers is better, and by a bit, IMO.
    Agree 100%. Rodgers is unreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    LJ isn't going to be playing in the regular season so I am not that worried about him getting hurt running. He is going to play the equivalent of about 2 more games. Obviously we need to keep RG3 so he will need some snaps, as will Flacco. Then LJ will sit most if not all of the season.

    My main concern is seeing his completion percentage go up.

    He looked a lot better in game 2 but he still needs to get to 60%.
    I'm pretty sure Harbaugh is on record saying that Lamar is indeed playing this year.





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    Re: Lamar's Progress

    Quote Originally Posted by burnwood View Post
    I'm pretty sure Harbaugh is on record saying that Lamar is indeed playing this year.
    Not to any lengthy degree, at least until we are eliminated from playoff contention.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    And LJ is no Rodgers, certainly as far as passing ability.

    And I know I might take some flack here, but while Favre was a very good QB I frankly think he is overrated a bit. He won one SB and threw more INTs than anybody in history. Rodgers is better, and by a bit, IMO.
    Agreed entirely. Taking Rodgers over Favre on any sunday.





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