Violence, Harrassment, Protest - the Left's message of tolerance

[wickedsolo]

These are tough conversations and it seems like both sides are moving farther and farther apart. I wish that wasn't the case but things definitely seem broken right now. We all live in the same country but see amazingly different points of view. Blaming the media seems too easy when as individuals we have access to live congressional testimonies, transcripts, and get to watch the Pres' Twitter account real time. I'll take my leave now but enjoyed the constructive conversation

I think a lot of this is because everyone feels like they're being attacked. Whether or not it's true doesn't really matter anymore.

Facts don't actually matter anymore, as we've seen over the last decade.

And then there is the media constantly choking everyone out with their BS. Everything is completely nationalized now. Politics have become a lifestyle and have caused people to become nationalized...not "Nationalized" like "Nationalist"...but "Nationalized" in the sense that now we're all supposed to care deeply, emphatically, VIOLENTLY about things that are happening 1,000 miles away. We've lost sight of local politics and things happening right in our back yards because we're so focused on what dumb shit thing Trump is going to Tweet today or what absurd nonsense is going to dribble out of Meryl Streep's mouth.

You have black American being told that they're oppressed, they're being targeted by the police, they're victims of systemic racism, etc. Sure, there are certainly some aspects of that rhetoric that are true. But, by and large, a lot of that isn't true and is ramped up by politicians and the media.

Oddly enough, the media never shows or discusses anything about white Americans that deal with similar things (Appalachia, for example).

Then, on the other side, you have a lot of white Americans feeling like they're being attacked for being white, for being Christian, for not buying into the gender hysteria, etc.

Oddly enough, the media never shows how a lot of black Americans are devout Christians, aren't into the gender hysteria, etc.

I am just so tired of it all. It's all so damn obnoxious.




The media and the politicians are by far the most disgusting and vile human beings on the planet. It's not even close.

[TarHeels33]

I think a lot of this is because everyone feels like they're being attacked. Whether or not it's true doesn't really matter anymore.

Facts don't actually matter anymore, as we've seen over the last decade.

And then there is the media constantly choking everyone out with their BS. Everything is completely nationalized now. Politics have become a lifestyle and have caused people to become nationalized...not "Nationalized" like "Nationalist"...but "Nationalized" in the sense that now we're all supposed to care deeply, emphatically, VIOLENTLY about things that are happening 1,000 miles away. We've lost sight of local politics and things happening right in our back yards because we're so focused on what dumb shit thing Trump is going to Tweet today or what absurd nonsense is going to dribble out of Meryl Streep's mouth.

You have black American being told that they're oppressed, they're being targeted by the police, they're victims of systemic racism, etc. Sure, there are certainly some aspects of that rhetoric that are true. But, by and large, a lot of that isn't true and is ramped up by politicians and the media.

Oddly enough, the media never shows or discusses anything about white Americans that deal with similar things (Appalachia, for example).

Then, on the other side, you have a lot of white Americans feeling like they're being attacked for being white, for being Christian, for not buying into the gender hysteria, etc.

Oddly enough, the media never shows how a lot of black Americans are devout Christians, aren't into the gender hysteria, etc.

I am just so tired of it all. It's all so damn obnoxious.




The media and the politicians are by far the most disgusting and vile human beings on the planet. It's not even close.

Agree with a large portion of the above.

[Coram_Nobis]

I think a lot of this is because everyone feels like they're being attacked. Whether or not it's true doesn't really matter anymore.

Facts don't actually matter anymore, as we've seen over the last decade.

And then there is the media constantly choking everyone out with their BS. Everything is completely nationalized now. Politics have become a lifestyle and have caused people to become nationalized...not "Nationalized" like "Nationalist"...but "Nationalized" in the sense that now we're all supposed to care deeply, emphatically, VIOLENTLY about things that are happening 1,000 miles away. We've lost sight of local politics and things happening right in our back yards because we're so focused on what dumb shit thing Trump is going to Tweet today or what absurd nonsense is going to dribble out of Meryl Streep's mouth.

You have black American being told that they're oppressed, they're being targeted by the police, they're victims of systemic racism, etc. Sure, there are certainly some aspects of that rhetoric that are true. But, by and large, a lot of that isn't true and is ramped up by politicians and the media.

Oddly enough, the media never shows or discusses anything about white Americans that deal with similar things (Appalachia, for example).

Then, on the other side, you have a lot of white Americans feeling like they're being attacked for being white, for being Christian, for not buying into the gender hysteria, etc.

Oddly enough, the media never shows how a lot of black Americans are devout Christians, aren't into the gender hysteria, etc.

I am just so tired of it all. It's all so damn obnoxious.




The media and the politicians are by far the most disgusting and vile human beings on the planet. It's not even close.

The Constitution's Supremacy Clause tornadoes issues up to the national level.
Win at the national level and you win everywhere. Joy!
Lose at the national level and you lose everywhere. Despair.

Because there isn't breathing room for the loser there is an incentive to fight harder.
Because the 17th Amendment means Senators share many constituents with Representatives, Senators make the same appeals as Representatives, they make many of the same arguments. Many of those arguments are of the left-right kind as opposed to the up-down federalism kind.

If Senators were guardians of federalism then many issues would be funneled downward where people feel more in control of their government and can also see, hear, and live with their political opponents.

If you feel you have power you might not be so angry.
If you have to deal daily or personally with your political opponent then you might hold more moderate viewpoints and, more importantly, you are likely to view that person as a complete person rather than as a D or an R.

Lots of moving parts, sociological and political. One of them is the 17th Amendment. It should be repealed so that more power moves closer to home.

[ravenmaniac4life]

The media and the politicians are by far the most disgusting and vile human beings on the planet. It's not even close.

I agree, wicked. Both are liars.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/32288...cs-jacob-airey

I encourage everyone who gives a shit to watch this. Can anyone make a convincing argument against it?

[NCRAVEN]

Looks like some Democrats are finally saying this tactic is wrong. But that's cause it may lead to sympathy for Trump and not cause it is actually wrong.

Resist too far? Pelosi tries to tamp down progressives' public shaming of Trump officials

But on Monday, several Democrats warned that such actions could backfire by eliciting sympathy for Trump officials, rallying Republicans to the polls in midterms or leading to similar protests against liberals by Trump supporters.

[DitkasSausage]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...shooting-death

Here’s another “peaceful protest”. Cops pull over a suspect in a drive by shooting. Handcuff him and he takes off on foot. Cop shoots him. Driver had illegal guns in the car. So this cop likely prevented the murder of a black person in the Black community. Liberals that shy away from admitting they want full gun confiscation say they just “want to take the guns out of the hands of bad people”. Well here you go! One less bad person with a gun. Isn’t this what you wanted?
Oh, but since the person was not white, let’s all riot and call for the killing of cops. Just another day in the life of the “peaceful left”.

[ravenmaniac4life]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...shooting-death

Here’s another “peaceful protest”. Cops pull over a suspect in a drive by shooting. Handcuff him and he takes off on foot. Cop shoots him. Driver had illegal guns in the car. So this cop likely prevented the murder of a black person in the Black community. Liberals that shy away from admitting they want full gun confiscation say they just “want to take the guns out of the hands of bad people”. Well here you go! One less bad person with a gun. Isn’t this what you wanted?
Oh, but since the person was not white, let’s all riot and call for the killing of cops. Just another day in the life of the “peaceful left”.

on this topic...check this out:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32302...raham-h-miller

From 2011 to 2016, at least 174 children under the age of 17 have been killed in Chicago shootings and 1,665 children have been shot. The dead children’s separation from their parents is permanent — not temporary. The victims are overwhelmingly African-American.


Where's the outcry? Why isn't Rachel Evan Wood and Stormy Daniels going to Chicago right now? Why isn't Time magazine putting these children on the covers of their magazines? The problem in Chicago is far worse than the problems at the detention centers at the border...yet...it's completely ignored by the MSM. For anyone that has a brain, it's pretty clear why this isn't a narrative being espoused by the press. If BLM and the MSM cares about black lives...they certainly have a funny way of showing their concern.

[steelerhater]

on this topic...check this out:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32302...raham-h-miller

From 2011 to 2016, at least 174 children under the age of 17 have been killed in Chicago shootings and 1,665 children have been shot. The dead children’s separation from their parents is permanent — not temporary. The victims are overwhelmingly African-American.


Where's the outcry? Why isn't Rachel Evan Wood and Stormy Daniels going to Chicago right now? Why isn't Time magazine putting these children on the covers of their magazines? The problem in Chicago is far worse than the problems at the detention centers at the border...yet...it's completely ignored by the MSM. For anyone that has a brain, it's pretty clear why this isn't a narrative being espoused by the press. If BLM and the MSM cares about black lives...they certainly have a funny way of showing their concern.

A good number of those 174 "children" were probably gang members. It's tragic that those innocent kids were killed and even 1 is too many, but if most were gang-bangers, then it's not a good comparison. The only good gang member is a dead gang member.

[ravenmaniac4life]

The only good gang member is a dead gang member.

How dare you!

Do you not see the spark of divinity in gang members?

[steelerhater]

How dare you!

Do you not see the spark of divinity in gang members?

Lol. "We're all God's children." Funny thing is that if Trump had said what Pelosi said, then there would've been a huge backlash from the left for implying that God exists:)

[ravenmaniac4life]

and so it begins...

Maxine Waters, it seems like some people are taking you up on your call to action :)

https://www.wptv.com/news/region-mar...masts-children

[WrongBaldy]

no wonder his ratings are in the toilet
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39...raged-violence