Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks

**CarrollCoRaven** · 06-22-2018, 09:51 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...erattacks.html

**blueridgemtnman** · 06-22-2018, 10:06 AM

He was so sure the crooked hag was going to win......wrong.

**wickedsolo** · 06-22-2018, 04:43 PM

Just playing devil's advocate here, but with cyber attacks, there can sometimes be an opportunity for monitoring the attack and see where it takes you. Like tailing someone on the street that you know just robbed a bank...they're going to potentially take you back to where all of their stash is and give you the option for a bigger arrest.

Cyber has become the new cold war and everyone is in on it. We do just as many things as Russia does. We do just as many things as China, North Korea, and Iran. In fact, I'd argue that other than Russia, we're better than most of those other nation state actors - at least in terms of offensive cyber operations.

I've been in situations where we have known about an intrusion against a victim and I've been told to stand down by FBI and other IC organizations. I didn't like it. I still don't like it. But, that is something that happens.

So, without being in that classified meeting where Susan Rice disclosed why they were being told to stand down, all we can do is speculate.

**CarrollCoRaven** · 06-22-2018, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Just playing devil's advocate here, but with cyber attacks, there can sometimes be an opportunity for monitoring the attack and see where it takes you. Like tailing someone on the street that you know just robbed a bank...they're going to potentially take you back to where all of their stash is and give you the option for a bigger arrest.

Cyber has become the new cold war and everyone is in on it. We do just as many things as Russia does. We do just as many things as China, North Korea, and Iran. In fact, I'd argue that other than Russia, we're better than most of those other nation state actors - at least in terms of offensive cyber operations.

I've been in situations where we have known about an intrusion against a victim and I've been told to stand down by FBI and other IC organizations. I didn't like it. I still don't like it. But, that is something that happens.

So, without being in that classified meeting where Susan Rice disclosed why they were being told to stand down, all we can do is speculate.

I'll bet they weren't told to stand down when they were spying on Trump.

**blueridgemtnman** · 06-22-2018, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven

I'll bet they weren't told to stand down when they were spying on Trump.

Funny how that works, huh?

**CincyCat** · 06-22-2018, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven

I'll bet they weren't told to stand down when they were spying on Trump.

This ^

**Dade** · 06-23-2018, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Just playing devil's advocate here, but with cyber attacks, there can sometimes be an opportunity for monitoring the attack and see where it takes you. Like tailing someone on the street that you know just robbed a bank...they're going to potentially take you back to where all of their stash is and give you the option for a bigger arrest.

Cyber has become the new cold war and everyone is in on it. We do just as many things as Russia does. We do just as many things as China, North Korea, and Iran. In fact, I'd argue that other than Russia, we're better than most of those other nation state actors - at least in terms of offensive cyber operations.

I've been in situations where we have known about an intrusion against a victim and I've been told to stand down by FBI and other IC organizations. I didn't like it. I still don't like it. But, that is something that happens.

So, without being in that classified meeting where Susan Rice disclosed why they were being told to stand down, all we can do is speculate.

This.

**wickedsolo** · 06-23-2018, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven

I'll bet they weren't told to stand down when they were spying on Trump.

You're comparing two totally different things here.

My devil's advocate point still stands.

**CarrollCoRaven** · 06-23-2018, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Just playing devil's advocate here, but with cyber attacks, there can sometimes be an opportunity for monitoring the attack and see where it takes you. Like tailing someone on the street that you know just robbed a bank...they're going to potentially take you back to where all of their stash is and give you the option for a bigger arrest.

Cyber has become the new cold war and everyone is in on it. We do just as many things as Russia does. We do just as many things as China, North Korea, and Iran. In fact, I'd argue that other than Russia, we're better than most of those other nation state actors - at least in terms of offensive cyber operations.

I've been in situations where we have known about an intrusion against a victim and I've been told to stand down by FBI and other IC organizations. I didn't like it. I still don't like it. But, that is something that happens.

So, without being in that classified meeting where Susan Rice disclosed why they were being told to stand down, all we can do is speculate.

That's possible, but unlikely,IMO considering the lackadaisical methods of protecting classified information by the Obama administration. I just don't believe cyber security was high on Obqma's list of concerns. The Russians didn't have to be too sophisticated to hack into classified information. Hillary and staff, Obama, and now Comey served it up on a silver platter. I'm guessing a computer savvy 9th grader could have found that information if they really wanted. The DNC didn't even allow the FBI to investigate the DNC server after it was hacked. Interesting at the very least. And then there is this, unrelated, maybe, but a huge red flag in my eyes. http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-bl...ms-with-terror
So much shit went on under his watch, most of which we still don't even know about. Where there is smoke there is fire and it's still smoldering.