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  1. #49
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    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmaniac4life View Post
    I kinda disagree...

    I think most people realize what's going on here. Keeping adults and children in separate detention centers is common practice and has always been common practice in these scenarios. This has never been a big deal...until now. Why?

    This "selective outrage" is a political football to be used against Trump. Nothing more. What's comical to me is how people are suddenly up in arms over this but didn't know/care about this before Trump became POTUS. The MSM is the puppeteer and a good chunk of America just listens and obeys to what they are told.

    Chuck Schumer more or less admitted that this isn't about a solution. This is about Trump. Schumer rejected a legislative solution and said he wanted to "keep the focus on Trump."

    If anyone sees this as anything other than political theater either isn't in the know or hates Trump or probably both.

    UPDATE:
    baby is here and healthy as a lark. we're all doing well! God is great :)
    Congratulations Brother Rav!!!


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    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    UPDATE:
    baby is here and healthy as a lark. we're all doing well! God is great :)[/QUOTE]

    Yes, congratulations, great to hear everyone is doing well.





  3. #51

    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by TecmoRaven View Post
    Sessions shifted policy about 2 months ago to charge everyone that crosses the border illegaly to be charged with a misdemeanor, which there is legislation for but was not a common practice for decades. By his reason this was to prevent imagrants from using children fraudulently, although this is rare. The tremendous spike in children being separated from their parents was directly caused by policy shift in djt's administration. Be careful how many hoops you jump through to keep a high opinion of your leaders.

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    if you cross the border illegally, you are committing a crime. Case closed! This isn't hard, people. Illegal immigration costs us (you, me, and everyone on this board) $100+ billion in taxpayer dollars. Enforce the law. Protect the border. Have a country.

    A mother with two children gets pulled over for erratic driving. In the back seat, two children. After a field sobriety test, it's determined the mother is drunk. She's arrested and taken to jail, but she doesn't get to keep her children with her. She's been charged with a crime — made more serious by the fact that she was endangering the lives of her children. So her maternal rights are shut off right there, at that instant.

    The same goes for those entering the United States illegally. They've broken the law — and what's more, they're not even American citizens. That drunk mother has rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution, but those Central Americans sneaking across the border do not.

    So what's happening at the border right now? What has changed is that we no longer exempt entire classes of people who break the law. Everyone is subject to prosecution. When DHS refers a case against a parent or legal guardian for criminal prosecution, the parent or legal guardian will be placed into the U.S. Marshals Service custody for pretrial determination, pursuant to an order by a federal judge. And any accompanied child will be transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services and will be reclassified as an unaccompanied alien child. That is in accordance with the TVPRA — a law that was passed by Congress — and a following court order, neither which are actions the Trump administration has taken."

    Yes, that's right, the border patrol is simply enforcing laws that have long been on the books, laws with lineage stretching back through Barack Obama and George W. Bush all the way to Bill Clinton. These aren't new laws, what's new is their actual enforcement.





  4. #52

    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by CarrollCoRaven View Post
    UPDATE:
    baby is here and healthy as a lark. we're all doing well! God is great :)

    Yes, congratulations, great to hear everyone is doing well.
    Thx man. It was a crazy delivery.

    I'm just glad everyone is fine.

    Children are truly a blessing. I'm a fortunate dude.





  5. #53

    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by Laxdad24 View Post
    Congratulations Brother Rav!!!
    thx Lax





  6. #54

    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    congrats rav!





  7. #55

    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Mazel tov, ravenmaniac4life

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  8. #56

    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongBaldy View Post
    congrats rav!
    Quote Originally Posted by TecmoRaven View Post
    Mazel tov, ravenmaniac4life
    Thanks guys.

    Damn, this forum is so cool. I'm so glad I post down here. Good peeps everywhere.





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    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmaniac4life View Post
    if you cross the border illegally, you are committing a crime. Case closed! This isn't hard, people. Illegal immigration costs us (you, me, and everyone on this board) $100+ billion in taxpayer dollars. Enforce the law. Protect the border. Have a country.

    A mother with two children gets pulled over for erratic driving. In the back seat, two children. After a field sobriety test, it's determined the mother is drunk. She's arrested and taken to jail, but she doesn't get to keep her children with her. She's been charged with a crime — made more serious by the fact that she was endangering the lives of her children. So her maternal rights are shut off right there, at that instant.

    The same goes for those entering the United States illegally. They've broken the law — and what's more, they're not even American citizens. That drunk mother has rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution, but those Central Americans sneaking across the border do not.

    So what's happening at the border right now? What has changed is that we no longer exempt entire classes of people who break the law. Everyone is subject to prosecution. When DHS refers a case against a parent or legal guardian for criminal prosecution, the parent or legal guardian will be placed into the U.S. Marshals Service custody for pretrial determination, pursuant to an order by a federal judge. And any accompanied child will be transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services and will be reclassified as an unaccompanied alien child. That is in accordance with the TVPRA — a law that was passed by Congress — and a following court order, neither which are actions the Trump administration has taken."

    Yes, that's right, the border patrol is simply enforcing laws that have long been on the books, laws with lineage stretching back through Barack Obama and George W. Bush all the way to Bill Clinton. These aren't new laws, what's new is their actual enforcement.
    Well said Brother ! All true. Why do these weak , libtards want to give rights to illegals that we citizens don’t have??? They are not Americans. They don’t have or get to use our Constitutional Rights!! This isn’t hard. Damn.


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    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmaniac4life View Post
    UPDATE:
    baby is here and healthy as a lark. we're all doing well! God is great :)
    Fantastic news! Happy for you and your wife! God is great!
    Let Joe Cool lead the way 😎





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    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongBaldy View Post
    these lunatics should get a job first
    http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/20/homela...ting-families/
    Yep,

    'SOCIALIST ACTIVIST WHO HARASSED HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY WORKS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE'

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/20/so...n-nielsen-doj/
    Let Joe Cool lead the way 😎





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    Re: Immigration issue / facts vs feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmaniac4life View Post
    He did the same thing for DACA.

    He gave the Democrats pretty much everything they wanted and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more in the bill that no Democrat voted for back in February. It once again proved that the Democrats have no intention of solving the problem at all. They just want to use the political leverage while assuming that everyone else in the country agrees with them. They have been wrong about everything since Trump came onto the scene.

    Trump's EO on this will 100% not appease the Left, the MSM, and the political/Hollywood elites. It'll simply expose them even more for the scumbags they are...again. Just watch it play out.
    Just as I read this this pop-up came across my screen:
    'MEDIA UNSATISFIED BY TRUMP EXECUTIVE ORDER ON FAMILY SEPARATIONS'

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/20/me..._campaign=push
    Let Joe Cool lead the way 😎





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