Do you think it was Coach Harbaugh or Owner Steve Bisciotti?

**The Excellector** · 05-26-2018, 11:31 AM

Mattison didn't survive 3rd and 19. Pees survived the 2016 ending. He didn't survive the 2017 ending. Do you guys think Coach Harbaugh was behind the two of them moving on, or Mr. Bisciotti?

**Culex** · 05-26-2018, 01:25 PM

Harbaugh

**PalladinInNC** · 05-26-2018, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Mattison didn't survive 3rd and 19. Pees survived the 2016 ending. He didn't survive the 2017 ending. Do you guys think Coach Harbaugh was behind the two of them moving on, or Mr. Bisciotti?

Harbaugh for both, although he should have got rid of both sooner!

And I think he really finally got rid of Pees because he knows that he is coaching for his job this year and the schedule is so tough that that he is hedging his bets.

Plus, Oz will be gone after this year and Eric might be more tempted to clean house if Harbs does not have, at least, a winning record.

Stay tuned, the fun will begin in September!

**Ravenswintitle** · 05-26-2018, 02:21 PM

Pees would still be DC if he hadn't retired.

**BcRaven** · 05-26-2018, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Mattison didn't survive 3rd and 19. Pees survived the 2016 ending. He didn't survive the 2017 ending. Do you guys think Coach Harbaugh was behind the two of them moving on, or Mr. Bisciotti?

I think it was our postings on the RSR board

What professional could be more knowledgable than us Ravens fans?

... Bc

**The Fanatic** · 05-26-2018, 05:59 PM

In the case of Dean Pees I think Harbaugh did it with some "strong suggestion" from Bisciotti.

**GOTA** · 05-26-2018, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by The Fanatic

In the case of Dean Pees I think Harbaugh did it with some "strong suggestion" from Bisciotti.

That's how I see Bisciotti operating. He has his ideas and make suggestions but he doesn't seem to make football decisions. That's what his head coach and GM are there for.

**Culex** · 05-26-2018, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Pees would still be DC if he hadn't retired.

That was a firing my friend. It helps both parties if it is a "retire".

**leachisabeast** · 05-26-2018, 11:07 PM

I think it was Harbs after Steve told him he wouldn't be back if that ever happened again

**leachisabeast** · 05-26-2018, 11:08 PM

I also think Steve probably pushed for Pagano, but Chuck was just not interested in returning to football or working under harbs again

**GOTA** · 05-27-2018, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I also think Steve probably pushed for Pagano, but Chuck was just not interested in returning to football or working under harbs again

Pagano is Harbaugh's best friend. I'm sure he was 1st choice for that job no matter what the owner said. They don't normally leak things and everyone knew they wanted Chuck. All of them were on board with that choice

**Rygar64** · 05-30-2018, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Pagano is Harbaugh's best friend. I'm sure he was 1st choice for that job no matter what the owner said. They don't normally leak things and everyone knew they wanted Chuck. All of them were on board with that choice

From all indications, Chuck wanted to step away from the grind of coaching but will remain connected to the sport by working a far less demanding job as an NFL consultant. Not sure why some fans think he wouldn't want to work for Harbs. That makes no sense, working here got him his head coaching gig and has led to promotions for the majority of coaches who have worked under JH. I think Pees was well aware that his time here was done. The team went all out, much to the dismay of many fans, to add talent to the defense and the season ended the same way it has for the last 3 out of 4 years...with a defensive collapse at the most critical moments. NE 2014, Pitt Christmas Day 2016, Cincy Week 17 2017. All the "great" stats in the world don't mean shit if you can't get it done when you need it most. It was simply untenable. I do think Pees was genuinely surprised that he got back in so quickly when Vrabel came calling.