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05-21-2018, 04:21 PM #121
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Re: Deep passes (15+ yards) by qbs since 2000
They bought into this idea that an elite QB makes average receivers great. They saw the Packers lose guys over the years who never performed as well elsewhere. They saw defensive players leave the Ravens away from Ray, Ed and Suggs and look ordinary. Somehow that translated into Flacco not needing any weapons to succeed.
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05-22-2018, 05:29 AM #122Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Deep passes (15+ yards) by qbs since 2000
Highest percentage of checkdowns last season:
Mike Glennon
Brock Osweiler
Joe Flacco
Blake Bortles
DeShone Kizer
Tyrod Taylor
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05-22-2018, 05:57 AM #123
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05-22-2018, 09:19 AM #124
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05-22-2018, 12:58 PM #125
Re: Deep passes (15+ yards) by qbs since 2000
You dont come into the league literally YOLO-ing the football downfield, win a superbowl, be superbowl MVP, Declare yourself ELITE and then choose to be a check down queen.... something changed and its not just "He got paid". If anything he'd just chuck it deep more often
Burn it down
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05-26-2018, 01:18 PM #126
Re: Deep passes (15+ yards) by qbs since 2000
Smoove, this is where I get off the train with a lot of you guys. There is a shit-ton of conjecture and speculation about what Joe does and doesn't do to "hone" his craft. I've never understood the origin of it. How do any of us know what time he comes in, how much film he studies or what time he leaves. Does someone out there have a list of clock in and clock out times for all 32 QBs in the league? Or is it just a lazy, convenient excuse to use when a player doesn't perform well? Tim Tebow stayed in the gym and at the facility and had a "burning" passion for football 24 hours a day. Favre has admitted to horrible practice habits, not being able to read defenses and battling a pervasive addiction problem. I'm trying to remember the last time I saw ARod(best QB in the league, right) gathering his WRs for offseason workouts on a consistent basis.
Where was the outrage over it during Flacco's first 6 years? Where was the outrage over it when the Ravens had the Pats on the ropes in that last playoff game with the 2 14pt leads? I simply can't get with this whole "well Joe is playing like shit so he must have stopped caring" bullshit. People clearly admit that the FO has fallen short at times and that Joe has played through injuries the last few years, but then turn around in the same post and say Joe is "9 to 5" or some other made up narrative. I know with the QB position everyone likes to attribute success to "intangibles" or "it factor" but the reality is quite simple. Football is a team game. If you field 1. a good offensive line, 2. good talent at some of your skill positions and 3. have a competent OC calling plays, your offense will succeed. During seasons when Joe has even had 2 out of 3, the Ravens have been good enough to make the playoffs. Every QB, even the HOF ones, NEED 2 out of 3 to be successful. The idea that the QB can elevate and overcome without it is pure fiction.
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05-26-2018, 04:52 PM #127Veteran Poster
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Re: Deep passes (15+ yards) by qbs since 2000
Just name one aspect of Flacco's game that has improved since 2010. If you can show me how Flacco has improved, then I would believe that he puts in work. But his audibles and presnap reads are so bad, its hard to imagine he's really spending a lot of time at it.
Based on how his growth stagnated, Flacco is dumb and can't get better (a definite possibility) or lazy.
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"Well that was an appropriate last ride for Pees. A Bengals WR streaking in for a game winning touchdown in the closing minutes is the man’s preferred medium to express his art." - GreenWave52
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05-26-2018, 11:48 PM #130Legendary Asswipe
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05-28-2018, 12:26 PM #132Legendary Asswipe
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