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  1. Re: Suggs throws Pees under the bus



    Quote Originally Posted by Coram_Nobis View Post
    That's the problem:
    With Jimmy Smith -- Incredible Hulk;
    Without Jimmy Smith -- Bruce Banner.

    Beginning with the playoff loss to the Patriots in 2014 it feels like we've been watching the same plot play out repeatedly. Jimmy Smith gets hurt; Ravens defense drops to mediocre or worse.

    Why, just today the NFL Network rebroadcast the Ravens-Giants game from 2016. (Part of a promotion to hype the return of Odell Beckham). The Ravens radio broadcast featured audio of Dean Pees explaining how important it is, how effective a defense can be -- when the opponent is made one dimensional. The audio aired at time when the Ravens defense was dominating the Giants. Then...

    About fifteen minutes later Jimmy Smith gets injured.

    Odell Beckham finishes with 222 yards and two TDs. Manning throws for more than 400 yards.

    Wooden stake, silver bullet, kryptonite, big zit on prom night -- you knew it was going to happen and worse still, that if it did happen, the guy in charge couldn't overcome it.

    They weren't bad with Pees. They were vulnerable. And it's vulnerability that invites self-doubt and emboldens opponents.

    A change was needed.
    I'm fine with changing the DC I just don't expect the results to be much better. Last year defense was very, very good as good as you can be in todays NFL.

    What needs to change is the offense. Flacco needs to play better. We need our WR to show they can get consistently open. We need our running game to be productive more then in short spurts.

    Our O line needs to stay healthy and perform well. That is what will make the real difference because that is where the improvement needs to happen.





  2. #98

    Re: Suggs throws Pees under the bus

    Quote Originally Posted by Coram_Nobis View Post
    That's the problem:
    With Jimmy Smith -- Incredible Hulk;
    Without Jimmy Smith -- Bruce Jenner.

    Beginning with the playoff loss to the Patriots in 2014 it feels like we've been watching the same plot play out repeatedly. Jimmy Smith gets hurt; Ravens defense drops to mediocre or worse.

    Why, just today the NFL Network rebroadcast the Ravens-Giants game from 2016. (Part of a promotion to hype the return of Odell Beckham). The Ravens radio broadcast featured audio of Dean Pees explaining how important it is, how effective a defense can be -- when the opponent is made one dimensional. The audio aired at time when the Ravens defense was dominating the Giants. Then...

    About fifteen minutes later Jimmy Smith gets injured.

    Odell Beckham finishes with 222 yards and two TDs. Manning throws for more than 400 yards.

    Wooden stake, silver bullet, kryptonite, big zit on prom night -- you knew it was going to happen and worse still, that if it did happen, the guy in charge couldn't overcome it.

    They weren't bad with Pees. They were vulnerable. And it's vulnerability that invites self-doubt and emboldens opponents.

    A change was needed.
    ftfy





  3. #99

    Re: Suggs throws Pees under the bus

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    This was his full statement

    One, its his intelligence. He has a very high football IQ, Suggs said of Martindale. Im very excited because of how he coaches. Hes taken the handcuffs off the guys. Sometimes a player can be shackled just by the rules that come with [playing] the defense. But I think Wink is just going to allow us to go make plays. Just be that fast-moving defense that this city and our fans love. Thats why Im very excited for the season. Its going to be fun, especially with this personnel that we have.

    To me that is actually pretty telling. You don't even have to read between the lines what he's trying to say.
    It seems as though Suggs is saying that the bend but don't break defense was more about not making a mistake rather than playing aggressive and dictating what the offense does. While some players were in position it was wrong to put them in that position. What we saw with CJ in coverage. While he was in the right position he was not able to do what was necessary to be successful the way the defense was called. Same on the coverage with Brown. If you are going to put a guy 1 on 1 with Brown on a 3rd and long you have to make sure you get a pass rush and not only rush 3 guys.





  4. #100

    Re: Suggs throws Pees under the bus

    Quote Originally Posted by boller4president View Post
    I wasn't a fan of our DC but the defense played well honestly can't really see them playing much better regardless of Wink. We were top in turnovers top 5 in overall defense. We gave up some late drives but all defenses do.

    People criticize Pees for the cover defenses but as soon as Jimmy went down we were forced to change some things. No team was going to send all out blitzes with just Humphrey and Carr.
    Nah, it's more than that. Scheme matters. Let's go back a decade to the 2008 defense with Rex as DC. McAlister, easily the top CB, and he only plays 5-6 games. Fabian Washington starts 12 games, the pass rush ends the year with 34 sacks (25 below first place) and still ended as the #2 pass defense in the league. You can't convince me that Marlon Humphrey, even as a rookie, was not better than Fabian Washington. The very next season, with most of the same players still here, Washington looks horrible with a new DC (Mattison).

    The players are important, but an above average DC can make a defense flat out better.





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    Re: Suggs throws Pees under the bus

    Quote Originally Posted by purple_city39 View Post
    Nah, it's more than that. Scheme matters. Let's go back a decade to the 2008 defense with Rex as DC. McAlister, easily the top CB, and he only plays 5-6 games. Fabian Washington starts 12 games, the pass rush ends the year with 34 sacks (25 below first place) and still ended as the #2 pass defense in the league. You can't convince me that Marlon Humphrey, even as a rookie, was not better than Fabian Washington. The very next season, with most of the same players still here, Washington looks horrible with a new DC (Mattison).

    The players are important, but an above average DC can make a defense flat out better.
    Not to mention Frank Walker played significant minutes that year as well.
    "Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore





  6. #102

    Re: Suggs throws Pees under the bus

    The way Pees would lose with the Pees-vent D would stop us from having any chance on offense to win the game, either.

    Pees gets to 3rd and long, plays soft coverage and gives up first down. Wash, Rinse, repeat. Kill the clock, gives up the game winning score to opponent, offense gets back ball with no clock.

    If you are aggresive like Winks might be on 3rd and 4th and longs, you may either get the stop to close out the game, OR give up the immediate big play TD that at least gives the ball back to us with 1-2 minutes left to work. Or, give up a normal chunk of yards, but you are perptually trying to win the game, rather than try to not lose the game.


    Pees was bad.





  7. #103

    Re: Suggs throws Pees under the bus

    Both Brandon Williams, Matt Judon and Marlon Humphrey (whose only been with the team for a year) echoed the same sentiments as Suggs during their OTA interviews. They feel less restricted under Wink and they're allowed to operate more freely within the system so that they can play faster.

    Mind boggling Pees couldn't figure that out.

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