Terrible article on Pees. Finally some lies

**The Fanatic** · 05-08-2018, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by WrongBaldy

you fell for it Fan lol

meh...don't post as much as I use to so I figured I'd take my shot at an attempt of interjecting some common sense into this foolishness.

**Ravenswintitle** · 05-08-2018, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by filthflarnfilth

Pees has a qb this year to put up points.... Mariota is a beast!

Some truth to this. They have the offense to score more than the one TD a game the Ravens have been scoring. I can see them being much improved from last year but time will tell

**DarthSizzle55** · 05-08-2018, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by The Fanatic

You mean like the 31 points Flacco and the Ravens put up against New England in the 2014 playoffs where Pees gave up 2 14 point leads?
Or more like the 38 points they put up against the Steelers last year that still wasn't enough?

because he leaves Antonio Brown and AJ Green open?

**esmd** · 05-08-2018, 10:15 PM

I can't wait until we beat them in the last 2 minutes of the game when their defense lays an egg.

**Ravenalytics** · 05-08-2018, 10:31 PM

I think the worst case scenario is that Vrabel overrides Pees and starts dictating the 4th quarter defense.

**WNCRavensFan** · 05-09-2018, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by purple_city39

I don't think it's possible, but imagine if the Titans defense is actually top five and DOESN'T blow late game leads.

Then we'll know it's not Pees but Harbaugh.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 05-09-2018, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenalytics

I think the worst case scenario is that Vrabel overrides Pees and starts dictating the 4th quarter defense.

Be interesting to see if Vrabel can actually do this with his old LB coach (2004-2005) and DC (2006-2008).
And he'll have to, if he wants to keep his job.
Because Pees will always revert to type when he's under the gun.
Just like he always did in both NE and Bal.

**Jfoh** · 05-09-2018, 09:04 AM

Pees will be Pees in the end. He gets tight. Starts going to soft zone or the dreaded prevent defense.

He never figured out that there are two types of defensive players in the NFL. Those who can only play man coverage well and those who can only play zone coverage. Here is the difference. A man coverage defender has to be a better athlete to play man coverage well but he does not have to be as smart because there are almost no keys to read. A zone coverage defender does not have to be as athletic but must read keys well, must know where he needs to be at all time, must anticipate things before they happen and be smart enough to adjust quickly. Ed Reed was a safety who could do both zone and man well. A rare combo.

Our defense is a man defense. When you go to zone or soft zone coverage you go away from their strengths. Without great qb pressure all the qb has to do is wait until his wr come open, in the many holes in a zone. 4-th down in the Cinci game. We should have been playing man coverage with an extra blitzer. Their line was trash. Instead Pees played soft, gave the qb time to let his wr get into the open area of the zone and it was pitch and catch. The defender did not have the closing speed to defend the pass. Td, game over and season over.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 05-09-2018, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Pees-led defenses look boss as hell during pre-season.

cuz the games dont count so he doesnt turtle under pressure lol

**seraph** · 05-09-2018, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jfoh

Pees will be Pees in the end. He gets tight. Starts going to soft zone or the dreaded prevent defense.

He never figured out that there are two types of defensive players in the NFL. Those who can only play man coverage well and those who can only play zone coverage. Here is the difference. A man coverage defender has to be a better athlete to play man coverage well but he does not have to be as smart because there are almost no keys to read. A zone coverage defender does not have to be as athletic but must read keys well, must know where he needs to be at all time, must anticipate things before they happen and be smart enough to adjust quickly. Ed Reed was a safety who could do both zone and man well. A rare combo.

Our defense is a man defense. When you go to zone or soft zone coverage you go away from their strengths. Without great qb pressure all the qb has to do is wait until his wr come open, in the many holes in a zone. 4-th down in the Cinci game. We should have been playing man coverage with an extra blitzer. Their line was trash. Instead Pees played soft, gave the qb time to let his wr get into the open area of the zone and it was pitch and catch. The defender did not have the closing speed to defend the pass. Td, game over and season over.

Love how soft zone coverages are the fault of Pees when players in coverage can't cover man-to-man either. The coaching staff needs a secondary coach or Harbaugh being an secondary "expert" need to get more out of the players.

Anyway Pees is actually really good at coming up with good stunt schemes upfront which no one really talks about because their too busy burying him for things that aren't entirely his fault. People never talk about how this defense doesn't have superstar players and expect plays to be made when they need to. Or they don't talk about how this defense doesn't get enough support from their terrible offense.

WAR Dean Pees.

**Trackmaster** · 05-09-2018, 10:02 AM

Remember guys, you have to look at the stats and the analytics. Everybody obsesses over the two minute defense -- and its understandable as to why they would -- but in reality, what goes on for the first 58 minutes before that is about 29 times as important. Its just basic math.

The name of the game is score points, and keep the other team from scoring points. Don't forget that. It doesn't really matter when those points come. The reality is that you have a lot more time to score points over a longer period of time, and vice versa, your enemy has a greater period of time to score points over the first 58 minutes.

So if you believe that there is a metaphysical block that's making a great 58 minute defense terrible in the last two minutes, don't sweat it or freak out. What does it matter? If your team is taking care of business for the majority of the game, you'll get your wins. Just get your lead, and turtle in the last 5-8 minutes. There's not a whole lot they can do when your offense is running out the clock and going into victory formation. And a conversely, if you have a super defense in the last minutes, but don't look at them throughout the game, you're a little SOL. You're not going to make miraculous comebacks on a regular basis.

The game is set up to heavily benefit teams who take early leads, and to penalize teams who lose control of the game early. The reality is that statistically and analytically, the defense was balling this year. The offense was so inept that they couldn't hold a possession and convert the full 7 points, so the defense was heavily strained, and couldn't possibly be expected to compete at a high level in the last few minutes when they were playing way more than they should have.

So yes, it all came back to a piss poor offense, and a talented, but overtaxed defense trying to plug up the dam.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 05-09-2018, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by seraph

Love how soft zone coverages are the fault of Pees when players in coverage can't cover man-to-man either. The coaching staff needs a secondary coach or Harbaugh being an secondary "expert" need to get more out of the players.

Anyway Pees is actually really good at coming up with good stunt schemes upfront which no one really talks about because their too busy burying him for things that aren't entirely his fault. People never talk about how this defense doesn't have superstar players and expect plays to be made when they need to. Or they don't talk about how this defense doesn't get enough support from their terrible offense.

WAR Dean Pees.

The only thing Barbs is an expert of is gym class