AFC North (Non-Ravens) Draft

**usmccharles** · 05-01-2018, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

It wasn't a good draft for the AFC North. The Browns had two top 4 picks and still missed out on both the RB and the pass rusher. For the CB out of need.

Don't you think its just a tad early to judge an overall draft. So many things can happen still, I wouldn't have went Baker and Ward, but that's just me, but if Ward turns into the best corner in the league while they have the Myles than its still a good pick, Chubb could be a Shane Ray or something. Just saying. The RB that got in the second I love, but too early for any of this.

**Ravenswintitle** · 05-01-2018, 09:12 PM

They’re rating them on ESPN now and Ravens rated highest. Top rated pick was Hurst

Of course McVay is prime influence

**Knox Harrington** · 05-01-2018, 09:43 PM

Grades are premature, but all these mock draft guys need to give them out to justify their their mock drafts.

That said, I think the Browns whiffed big time. The Steelers did not address anything on defense. I think they're defense will be bottom 5 in the league this year. The Bengals draft seemed mediocre at best. The Ravens, I think, had the best draft of AFC North teams.

**usmccharles** · 05-01-2018, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

They’re rating them on ESPN now and Ravens rated highest. Top rated pick was Hurst

Of course McVay is prime influence

I just don't see it in Hurst with just one year and 3 TDs....Just hard to believe we couldn't have just waiting and taken him later

**WNCRavensFan** · 05-02-2018, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by usmccharles

Don't you think its just a tad early to judge an overall draft. So many things can happen still, I wouldn't have went Baker and Ward, but that's just me, but if Ward turns into the best corner in the league while they have the Myles than its still a good pick, Chubb could be a Shane Ray or something. Just saying. The RB that got in the second I love, but too early for any of this.

It's the same thing with you not seeing it with Hurst -- none of this will be clear until these guys play ball for a while. First impressions are used in terms of how teams did compared to the board with what picks they had.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 05-02-2018, 09:04 AM

James washington is going to clown Jefferson and Weddle lol we're going to have to score 40 to beat pitt

**Ravenswintitle** · 05-02-2018, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by usmccharles

I just don't see it in Hurst with just one year and 3 TDs....Just hard to believe we couldn't have just waiting and taken him later

They deemed it the highest position of need and Oz clearly targeted Hurst. You can hear when he calls him to tell him they're selecting him.

**sailorsam** · 05-02-2018, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

They deemed it the highest position of need and Oz clearly targeted Hurst. You can hear when he calls him to tell him they're selecting him.

and we still got a great TE later. Mark Andrews was #1 TE in Street & Smith's rankings, so he was close to a first round talent.

guessing either Maxx or Boyle will be gone this fall

**sailorsam** · 05-14-2018, 07:17 AM

Pigsburgh writer doesn't like Steelers draft

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/z...s/201805040130

***The Steelers draft picks made very little sense, for the most part, as they were happening in real time. Now, a week later, with time to reflect and hear Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin’s rationale, they make even less sense.

The concept of “respecting the draft board” and choosing talent over need is sound, in theory. In general, a team should pick the best player available throughout the draft and plug them into the lineup when they are ready to play.

That’s a bad way to draft if you have been close but fallen short of the Super Bowl the past few seasons and have several glaring needs still on your roster. That’s an even worse way to do business when your team has a fairly definitive window with a Hall of Fame quarterback.***

(they have ad blocker, so try to stop loading as soon as the print appears)

***The Steelers’ biggest need going into the draft was at inside linebacker, and the two they seemed to covet were Boise State’s Leighton Vander Esch and Alabama’s Rashaan Evans. Vander Esch went off the board to the Cowboys at pick No. 19, which was nine spots ahead of the Steelers. At that point, the Steelers needed to try to trade up to make sure they could secure Evans, even if they had to overpay to make the pick.

That would have made sense, as opposed to staying put and reaching for safety Terrell Edmunds from Virginia Tech. Edmunds may help in their dime package and he has some versatility, but the Steelers could have traded down, grabbed an extra pick or two, and still got him in the second round.

Edmunds at least makes some sense because he is at a position of need. The next three picks were all head-scratchers because they won’t likely help the Steelers at all next season.***

here's hoping

***Then they drafted Mason Rudolph, a quarterback, in the third round and tried to convince the world they had a first-round grade for him. That’s nonsense, considering they passed on him twice and just about every other team passed on him three times. This was a wasted pick. He isn’t going to challenge for the starting job any time soon and may never even develop into a legitimate backup.

Chukwuma Okorafor has size and potential and may develop into a very nice offensive tackle. The Steelers don’t need a tackle for next season, they still needed help on defense. Penn State’s Marcus Allen gives them a little bit of that, perhaps, but a fifth-round safety is unlikely to be an immediate impact player — or an impact player at all.***

unlike the Ravens, Pigsburgh has transitioned into an offense-first team. considering how the Cheatriots chewed them up last AFCCG maybe they de-emphasized D too much. but considering they got that far, hard to argue wi their strategerie.

**crabcakes** · 05-14-2018, 09:09 AM

mason rudolph was a steal in the 3rd round. He will be a better pro the jackson IMO

**stevez51** · 05-14-2018, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by sailorsam

Pigsburgh writer doesn't like Steelers draft

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/z...s/201805040130

***The Steelers draft picks made very little sense, for the most part, as they were happening in real time. Now, a week later, with time to reflect and hear Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin’s rationale, they make even less sense.

The concept of “respecting the draft board” and choosing talent over need is sound, in theory. In general, a team should pick the best player available throughout the draft and plug them into the lineup when they are ready to play.

That’s a bad way to draft if you have been close but fallen short of the Super Bowl the past few seasons and have several glaring needs still on your roster. That’s an even worse way to do business when your team has a fairly definitive window with a Hall of Fame quarterback.***

(they have ad blocker, so try to stop loading as soon as the print appears)

***The Steelers’ biggest need going into the draft was at inside linebacker, and the two they seemed to covet were Boise State’s Leighton Vander Esch and Alabama’s Rashaan Evans. Vander Esch went off the board to the Cowboys at pick No. 19, which was nine spots ahead of the Steelers. At that point, the Steelers needed to try to trade up to make sure they could secure Evans, even if they had to overpay to make the pick.

That would have made sense, as opposed to staying put and reaching for safety Terrell Edmunds from Virginia Tech. Edmunds may help in their dime package and he has some versatility, but the Steelers could have traded down, grabbed an extra pick or two, and still got him in the second round.

Edmunds at least makes some sense because he is at a position of need. The next three picks were all head-scratchers because they won’t likely help the Steelers at all next season.***

here's hoping

***Then they drafted Mason Rudolph, a quarterback, in the third round and tried to convince the world they had a first-round grade for him. That’s nonsense, considering they passed on him twice and just about every other team passed on him three times. This was a wasted pick. He isn’t going to challenge for the starting job any time soon and may never even develop into a legitimate backup.

Chukwuma Okorafor has size and potential and may develop into a very nice offensive tackle. The Steelers don’t need a tackle for next season, they still needed help on defense. Penn State’s Marcus Allen gives them a little bit of that, perhaps, but a fifth-round safety is unlikely to be an immediate impact player — or an impact player at all.***

unlike the Ravens, Pigsburgh has transitioned into an offense-first team. considering how the Cheatriots chewed them up last AFCCG maybe they de-emphasized D too much. but considering they got that far, hard to argue wi their strategerie.

Pitt opted to solve the Ben drama each season instead of looking for a RB to end the Leveon drama.

**WNCRavensFan** · 05-14-2018, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by sailorsam

and we still got a great TE later. Mark Andrews was #1 TE in Street & Smith's rankings, so he was close to a first round talent.

guessing either Maxx or Boyle will be gone this fall

The Ravens should be going into the season with 4 TE, and so it comes down to whether or not you keep Vince Mayle for special teams play. I would. Maxx would be my cut, since Boyle is the blocking TE.