Democrats: Fight Anything Trump, Republicans Put Forward

[ravenmaniac4life]

Look, no matter how obstructive Republicans have been in the past, it was over policy.

Looking at today's democratic representation of the people who voted them in office is demoralizing. The mere idea that the "black caucus" can't applaud something as good as highest black employment at the State of the Union was beyond policy. It was hate, spite, and anger over not getting their way.

Top it off, you had one elected official playing Candy Crush, another bolted for the door when his Trumpacitus kicked in during the speech.

They want everything THEIR way, period. Regardless of the damage it does to the American People. Democrats want to start impeachment processes over Trump using his 1st Amendment Right in a closed meeting for allegedly saying "shithole countries". Meanwhile they cannot even behave themselves in public on the biggest stage where the world was watching.

I admit, I liked President Obama. I voted for him twice. I believed in him. Today, I am very disappointed in the man. I was annoyed with some of his policies as I was annoyed with many of the idiot Republican stances. But I feel lied to. All the crap at the FBI, DOJ, and the "holier than thou" when Trump claimed his Tower was being spied on and he was laughed at turned out to be TRUE!

I cannot imagine what we don't know about, but every day more and more evidence emerges of a deep state plot that could only have been devised by one man: Barrack Huessein Obama. I am not sure what the man's machinations were, what is clear to me is the man's legacy is becoming tarnished before our very eyes.

In this, the Democrats MUST employ all tactics possible to divert ALL attention to what was going on. This means CNN and all the bought media spending inordinate amounts of time trying to make Trump the bad guy.

Trump doesn't need help in this. I don't think he is a bad man, but he comes across as a man that believes, like Barack, he knows best and is going to lead the country in the way he sees fit. He really isn't even a Republican, he just took their party from them. If you can't see the genius in this, your ability to read between the lines is seriously weak.

But the largest point to Democratic opposition is that a lot of what Trump is doing, is removing the Deep State and in many ways besmirching what was a popular president, hurting their chances of getting the White House back, or even seeing another minority or even a female in that oval office.

Party is above country for many of the elected, it is just more pronounced on the Democrats in my opinion.

Aye Aye Captain!

We are pretty much on the same page. That's exactly how I see it as well...minus the fact that I turned on Barry after 3-4 months in office.

[Dade]

Can you name a few?

Germany

[NCRAVEN]

Germany

They have a huge defense budget to don’t they?

[CincyCat]

They have a huge defense budget to don’t they?

Also a problem with illegal immigrants pummeling their tradition.

[HbgPARavenfan]

I thought you were trying to prove that he was a moderate?

Same general Idea. In the end he wont be rememberd for much because while he campaigned as a progressive, he didnt really do much at all. Just another run of the mill Politician who pans to the extreme end of his party and then actually is much more moderate with his decisions...sorry for the confusion.

[HbgPARavenfan]

Socialism doesn't really work either though. If you look at most of the European countries that have been socialist (Italy, Portugal, Greece, Spain, Norway, Denmark, etc) - almost all of them are bankrupt or on their way to becoming bankrupt.

Socialism, theoretically, could work for a VERY small homogeneous municipality. The reason that could theoretically work is because everyone knows everyone and everyone has a vested interest in the well being of everyone. When you grow the population and introduce different races, cultures, etc...then nobody really knows anyone anymore and that vested interest in well being dissipates.

That's why true socialism would never succeed in the US. We're far too vast and diverse. You think anyone in Nebraska gives a shit about what folks over here in Baltimore are doing? Nope. They don't even speak the same language. So, why would they willingly pay into a government system to support folks in Baltimore? It's illogical and based on false premises.

Additionally, when the government is responsible for practically every facet of our public life (medical, insurance, healthcare, auto, transportation, corporations, education, etc), the government grows far too rapidly because of the need to create more jobs and more departments. The government has no choice but to tax the crap out of its citizens. This then leads into the fact that socialism removes incentive. So, if citizens no longer have incentive to grow a business or advance their own careers, then the economy becomes stagnant and eventually folds because the government runs out of money and the citizens are no longer working.

The reality is that there is no one perfect economic and political system. They're all flawed in one way or another. In fact, many political and economic philosophers (including Milton Friedman) felt that America was a miracle in and of itself for the way we have sustained our way of life going on 250 years. Most governments don't last that long. Most economies don't last that long.

If it wasnt for the massive military we've built up, I honestly dont think we'd be a single country at this point in history. Our states are vastly different and basically fear of the federal government military might is the only thing keeping states from separating

[Laxdad24]

It's not really accurate to say the Scandanavian economies are socialist.

In the Scandinavian countries, like all other developed nations, the means of production are primarily owned by private individuals, not the community or the government, and resources are allocated to their respective uses by the market, not government or community planning.

While it is true that the Scandinavian countries provide things like a generous social safety net and universal healthcare, an extensive welfare state is not the same thing as socialism. What Sanders and his supporters confuse as socialism is actually social democracy, a system in which the government aims to promote the public welfare through heavy taxation and spending, within the framework of a capitalist economy. This is what the Scandinavians practice.

https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of...ian-socialism/

I agree 100%. I was just pointing out a few countries where they are considered “Socialist “ and they’ve had a “successful “ gov and Econ. It’s not true Socialist. It’s way more than here.


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[wickedsolo]

If it wasnt for the massive military we've built up, I honestly dont think we'd be a single country at this point in history. Our states are vastly different and basically fear of the federal government military might is the only thing keeping states from separating

I don’t disagree with this.

I think if they could, Texas would secede.

I also think California would as well (wouldn’t be sad about this one, honestly).

And that fear you’re noting here is exactly why the 2nd Amendment exists in the first place.


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[HbgPARavenfan]

I don’t disagree with this.

I think if they could, Texas would secede.

I also think California would as well (wouldn’t be sad about this one, honestly).

And that fear you’re noting here is exactly why the 2nd Amendment exists in the first place.


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I agree. Tho at this point our military is so advanced we'd all get smoked anyway lol

[Captain Silver]

They have a huge defense budget to don’t they?

Watch, they are letting immigrants in. Then, eventually, Germany will turn on them like they did the Jews. The 4th Reich is ready to rise again, this time it will be a different kind of tyrant.

[steelerhater]

Awww man....that girl...her parents must be so proud of her. Spending all that time and money earning a Women's Studies degree and doing nothing but regurgitating crap she overheard in some arthaus coffee seminar.

Well, she is in (or has been through) college, so there's a good chance that she was brainwashed.

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[steelerhater]

Also a problem with illegal immigrants pummeling their tradition.

Didn't the Chancellor of Germany recently say that accepting all of the immigrants was the worst thing they could of done. Of course, she was the one that was all for it a few years ago.

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