Salary Cap

**mmi16** · 01-23-2018, 10:03 AM

OK - We have a salary cap on players.

Should there be a salary cap on coaches? Everybody knows player pay and how it counts against the cap as well as dead money. Should coaches be subjected to a similar type of system.

If the NFL is as 'cost conscious' as they want people to believe why shouldn't coaches be a part of the same thought process.

**Trackmaster** · 01-23-2018, 10:18 AM

Personally, I like the idea. I think that coordinators and assistants should get standard agreed upon amounts based on payscales, and I think that HC salary should be factored in the salary cap/floor of the player's roster.

Its actually pretty surprising to me that big market teams like the Cowboys or Giants don't just shell out $15-20 million a year for coaches like Bill Belichick, seeing as their salary doesn't factor into the salary cap.

You could even argue that the HC is more important than other one player on the team other than the QB. Even that might be debatable. Or with some QB's, should I say "deflatable?"

**GOTA** · 01-23-2018, 10:23 AM

No way. Which team can't afford to pay their coaches? These teams make more than enough money to pay coaches. The Raiders who in the past 20 years have been near the bottom in league attendance just committed $100 million over 10 years to a coach. This isn't the Yankees having a roster that costs triple what the Rays are able to afford. There is no possible reason to put a cap in coaching, front office, marketing or any other function.

**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 01-23-2018, 10:27 AM

I personally don't think a salary cap is needed. I like the salary cap so much because it increases competitiveness (at least in theory). There's enough turnover because guys go for HC jobs (or other promotions, i.e. position coaches for coordinators spots) to maintain competitiveness.

The Pats may lose McDaniels and Patricia for example.

**Trackmaster** · 01-23-2018, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

No way. Which team can't afford to pay their coaches? These teams make more than enough money to pay coaches. The Raiders who in the past 20 years have been near the bottom in league attendance just committed $100 million over 10 years to a coach. This isn't the Yankees having a roster that costs triple what the Rays are able to afford. There is no possible reason to put a cap in coaching, front office, marketing or any other function.

Correct. I agree that we've never really seen bidding wars over coaches. If this became a problem, I might see some action being taken, but for now, it seems like the owners have some kind of unspoken agreement not to overpay coaches to steal them from each other. The Jon Gruden deal notwithstanding which seems to be an outlier.

I know that I've heard commotion about going to a set payscale for assistance per league rules, but I'm not sure if that's still getting any traction.

IMO, what a team could do if they were flushed in cash and wanted to really game the system, they could keep a HC who did well for them, and hire another coach who has HC talent and a proven pedigree, and give him HC money to be the team's OC or DC. I remember I used to do that in Madden.

It seems like teams do typically stick to their payscales. Giving HC's $4-8M a year, and giving the coordinators $800K-1M a year, and paying the position coaches much less than that, and not really deviating from that.

Again, if it ever became a problem we might see some action. This is why the NCAA has rules about how many coaches they can employ, and teams like Alabama get around them by calling some of them "consultants."

**sawraven1** · 01-23-2018, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven

I personally don't think a salary cap is needed. I like the salary cap so much because it increases competitiveness (at least in theory). There's enough turnover because guys go for HC jobs (or other promotions, i.e. position coaches for coordinators spots) to maintain competitiveness.

The Pats may lose McDaniels and Patricia for example.

Pats lose Patricai? LOL

I swear i think this is Romeo Crennell and Charlie Weiss all over again. How did the 29th ranked defense defensive coordinator get elevated to the Lions Head coach and they fired Caldwell who had a winning record. I get Mcdaniels getting all the attention but WTF has Patricai done?

Hard to believe Billionaire owners are that stupid but apparently they are

**JonAB** · 01-23-2018, 11:48 AM

No. I understand the need for a salary cap simply for competitive balance (I do however think the players should reap a higher % of revenues) but coaches salaries are not affecting the balance of power in the NFL and I could give a fuck less about how much money a billionaire has to spend to keep the guy they like.

**usmccharles** · 01-23-2018, 12:11 PM

I think everyone should be able to make as much money as they can get paid. I don't see a point on putting a cap on coaches, Gruden is literally the only coach I ever seen be talked about on how much money hes getting paid, good for him, this is a non issue. Browns could of paid him the same...we could have have......Raiders did

**BcRaven** · 01-23-2018, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by sawraven1

Pats lose Patricai? LOL

I swear i think this is Romeo Crennell and Charlie Weiss all over again. How did the 29th ranked defense defensive coordinator get elevated to the Lions Head coach and they fired Caldwell who had a winning record. I get Mcdaniels getting all the attention but WTF has Patricai done?

Hard to believe Billionaire owners are that stupid but apparently they are

The glaring example of continued stupidity is the Cleveland Browns. 'Nuff said... Bc

**esmd** · 01-23-2018, 12:24 PM

Nope. This would be "solving" a problem that doesn't exist.

**GOTA** · 01-23-2018, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by sawraven1

Pats lose Patricai? LOL

I swear i think this is Romeo Crennell and Charlie Weiss all over again. How did the 29th ranked defense defensive coordinator get elevated to the Lions Head coach and they fired Caldwell who had a winning record. I get Mcdaniels getting all the attention but WTF has Patricai done?

Hard to believe Billionaire owners are that stupid but apparently they are

They Lions hired a former Patriots front office guy as GM last year. He worked with Patricia for 12 years. That’s why he hired him. It wasn’t Martha Ford making this decision.