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**The Excellector** · 01-27-2018, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

The first time I watched it, I thought Kay was a goner after that, lol.

He didn't do Kay right getting married in Italy, but getting an abortion without telling the father, who actually wants to be and is excited to be the father, I'd say that's a pretty heavy receipt. Lol. I swear to God I thought he was gonna kill her.

**WNCRavensFan** · 01-27-2018, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

That's right, because Sollozzo picked up on that and Barzini took advantage. Barzini was looking for a crack to slip through and Sonny provided it. If they finished off the Don it would have worked. Michael saving the Don that night at the hospital, essentially, saved the family, because he was able to have his father's aide in understanding Barzini's psychology. Ironically, Barzini would have been better served to take out Michael first, and not Sonny, especially after the hospital incident, but even they underestimated Michael.

'Cause he wasn't supposed to be in the family business, and Vito wanted him clean. But in the end he was the perfect Corleone.

BTW I'm with you on taking out that POS Carlo. Clemenza had the best execution scenes in #1, Carlo and Paulie. It's a shame Richard Castellano was dumped for Part 2.

**Terpsfan82** · 01-27-2018, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

My favorite kill was Carlo. Just, how methodical he was in breaking Carlo down. It was like the police breaking down a suspect during interrogation. Then, just when he convinces Carlo that he's gonna spare him, he lets Carlo get in the car thinking he's going to get off with just having to get out of town, only to watch him get strangled.

Damn how could i forget about this one? Carli had it coming.

How did you feel about the death of Tessio?

**Ravenalytics** · 01-27-2018, 08:20 AM

Forget his name, but loved the revenge Vito took on the guy that killed his family back in Sicily

**I Touchdown There** · 01-27-2018, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenalytics

Forget his name, but loved the revenge Vito took on the guy that killed his family back in Sicily

that's one of my favs for sure. I also always liked the "montage" at the end of 1&2, juxtaposed with the baptism and first communion. oh, Italians

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**Terpsfan82** · 01-27-2018, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenalytics

Forget his name, but loved the revenge Vito took on the guy that killed his family back in Sicily

The knife down the breastplate was brutal.

**Terpsfan82** · 01-27-2018, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by I Touchdown There

that's one of my favs for sure. I also always liked the "montage" at the end of 1&2, juxtaposed with the baptism and first communion. oh, Italians

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Great cinematography. I liked the montages too.

**The Excellector** · 01-27-2018, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

Damn how could i forget about this one? Carli had it coming.

How did you feel about the death of Tessio?

I think they did right by him, by not showing it, but it was deserved. I think it was handled well by the family and portrayed well by Coppola.

**The Excellector** · 01-27-2018, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

The knife down the breastplate was brutal.

I like how that Don was so paranoid about killing the entire family so that what eventually happened, wouldn't happen. Since he couldn't do it, years later, sure enough, it happened.

**The Excellector** · 01-27-2018, 02:38 PM

Reading our discussion about it, I can see what made the Godfather so great. Everything happened for a reason. It's not as if something happened and didn't lead to anything else. In sports, we often talk about wasted movement. There was no wasted movement in those movies.