Elite pass rusher is still needed

**Goode05** · 11-10-2017, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by ERey

I was just more or less making they the point they need to invest on offense. But yea, Jensen seems to have played well.

Has he played 10 mill per well tho? I'm curious to see what he's asking for. 10 per seems to be top 5 center money

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**BcRaven** · 11-10-2017, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Goode05

Has he (Jensen) played 10 mill per well tho? I'm curious to see what he's asking for. 10 per seems to be top 5 center money

If the Ravens were to give Jensen a $10 mil. per year contract, and had let KO and Wagner go in two previous years, I would not be a happy camper. How about Ozzie trying to sign him now (not that I know he isn't trying) to a somewhat lower deal? ... Bc

**HbgPARavenfan** · 11-10-2017, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Sorry but Seattles OL was not solid or anything close to it. They had a good LT and a C... the rest of those guys they had were James Hurst esque

By Solid I mean average. I'd strongly disagree they had James Hurst talent at 3/5 of the positions. They have dropped off significantly recently which gives people a recency bias towards their oline in general. Lynch was a monster in Seattle, but to say he did it entirely on his own with a below average line would be a huge stretch, and Lynch is probably my favorite player in the NFL

**leachisabeast** · 11-10-2017, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

By Solid I mean average. I'd strongly disagree they had James Hurst talent at 3/5 of the positions. They have dropped off significantly recently which gives people a recency bias towards their oline in general. Lynch was a monster in Seattle, but to say he did it entirely on his own with a below average line would be a huge stretch, and Lynch is probably my favorite player in the NFL

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After averaging over 161 yards per game on the ground in 2012, the Seahawks averaged fewer than 137 per game in 2013. Wilson — constantly harassed throughout the season — was sacked 44 times, tied for third-worst in the NFL despite his sometimes uncanny ability to escape pressure."

- From a Seattle blog

**BigPlayReceiver** · 11-10-2017, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

C is assuming we don't re sign Jensen?

If Jensen walks, I walk gd!!!

**HbgPARavenfan** · 11-10-2017, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

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After averaging over 161 yards per game on the ground in 2012, the Seahawks averaged fewer than 137 per game in 2013. Wilson — constantly harassed throughout the season — was sacked 44 times, tied for third-worst in the NFL despite his sometimes uncanny ability to escape pressure."

- From a Seattle blog

Ok but Lynch rushing yards per season
2011 - 1204
2012- 1509
2013 - 1257
2014 - 1306
2015 - 417

Im not saying they were a great line. Im saying that they were average - solid. When there entire team was built around running and playing defense, they did what they were supposed to do

**leachisabeast** · 11-10-2017, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

Ok but Lynch rushing yards per season
2011 - 1204
2012- 1509
2013 - 1257
2014 - 1306
2015 - 417

Im not saying they were a great line. Im saying that they were average - solid. When there entire team was built around running and playing defense, they did what they were supposed to do

Good run blocking shaky in pass protection... sounds familiar

**GirlsKickButt** · 11-10-2017, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by ERey

I don't give a shit how the board falls in 2018, the first pick better have WR, G, OT, C, RB, TE or QB next to his name. We don't need a pass rusher with Z Smith, Bowser, Judon and Tim Williams on the team. We need the offense to get first downs and score.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 11-10-2017, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Good run blocking shaky in pass protection... sounds familiar

I cant argue with that. I will add that

2012 they were 9th in PPG ( we were 10th
2013 they were 9th in PPG (we were 25th)
2014 they were 10th in ppg ( We were 8th)
2015 they were 5th in ppg (We were 25th)

They've sustained basically a top 10 offense every year, while we fell into the dumps, picked up Kubiak, then went back in the dumps again.

While we all want an elite defense, even Seattle knows you have to field an offense unlike the ravens who think they can win with the #1 defense and 32 offense

**Goode05** · 11-10-2017, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

I cant argue with that. I will add that

2012 they were 9th in PPG ( we were 10th
2013 they were 9th in PPG (we were 25th)
2014 they were 10th in ppg ( We were 8th)
2015 they were 5th in ppg (We were 25th)

They've sustained basically a top 10 offense every year, while we fell into the dumps, picked up Kubiak, then went back in the dumps again.

While we all want an elite defense, even Seattle knows you have to field an offense unlike the ravens who think they can win with the #1 defense and 32 offense

Damn next years draft going to be de first safety 2nd MLB 4th. Some clone of 11 in the third

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**DeltaRaven** · 11-10-2017, 06:58 PM

The offense is basically an old beat up Pinto and here we are advocating we need to add a new engine to our perfectly fine Lambo that's driven to and from the grocery store by Grandma.

**xiao_ke** · 11-10-2017, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Goode05

Has he played 10 mill per well tho? I'm curious to see what he's asking for. 10 per seems to be top 5 center money

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There is no way I would pay Jensen $10M per. He has played well in one half of a season for his career. Let another team make that mistake if they want to break the bank.