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11-06-2017, 12:00 PM #25Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
1. Well, we did have starters on the other side of the ball... they just turned out to not be very good. Mike Wallace and Maclin are starting caliber players... its just Maclin's been hurt and Wallace plays like shit and is soft.
And realistically, this discussion about the O is about WR and WR only. Stop talking about the O like its all inclusive. Its about pass catchers. QB wasn't changing, Oline was eventually fine, and we found a waiver wire RB who could do what we wanted him to do successfully.
2. You didn't know that we had starters on defense when we drafted. There's no possible way that you had that info. Literally nobody was on here saying "yeah man we got Carr and Jimmy, we're good at Corner". In fact, its was a lot more of "we should be looking to move on from Jimmy soon, and I don't know if Carr is any good". This is why hindsight doesn't work.
3. Well yeah, you focus on depth at positions where you're most likely to have injuries. That's why we emphasized corner so much. Its why we emphasized pass rusher so much (and the fact that we didn't have a pass rush last year with the same guys who are supposed to be "starters" this year).
Every team wants playmakers. They're hard to find and even harder to keep. But playmakers aren't specific to skill positions either.
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11-06-2017, 12:01 PM #26Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
I agree that Wormley was a waste, especially with several offensive talents available, but I like Bowser. He's the kind of starting OLB material for when Suggs retires. It's only that we just cannot develop players very well. Sure some (Judon) stand out, but to waste talents like Correa and Bowser is counter-productive... Bc
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11-06-2017, 12:16 PM #29Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
Right, but it turns out the FO was marginally right about their assessment... the fanbase thought the Oline was the worst they'd ever seen, and the coaching staff and FO said that we had good players on the roster already. They were right about Jensen, and Skura overall looks good.
They couldn't have anticipated that our top basically four Guards would all end up on IR, which is what happened.
Funny thing is that our areas of strength, which appear to be Center and the Tackles, are the positions I would emphasize the most after the season. Why? Because we have virtually no depth there. Interior Oline has some depth... its just unfortunate that literally all of it got hurt basically at the same time. There's normal injuries on the OLine, but its more spread out.
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11-06-2017, 12:17 PM #30Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
And with a coordinator who's not anywhere near as creative as Andy Reid and in an offense that clearly doesn't cater to his strengths, you probably wouldn't even notice Kareem Hunt here.
Biggest failed assumption a fan can ever make is watching what a player does on another team and automatically think they will do just as well on any other team.
If there's one thing we should have learned from some of our FA acquisitions in the past, its that the guy we're getting doesn't always bring the same production with him.
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11-06-2017, 12:26 PM #31
Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
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11-06-2017, 12:28 PM #32Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
Marlon Humphrey. I think he's played really well. It was a good pick so far by Ozzie. Jimmy Smith is playing lights out and Brandon Carr is playing well. So there's no need to rush him into a full time role yet.
I also think Bowser was a good pick. But he's competing for time with Suggs, Judon and Z. Smith.
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Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
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11-06-2017, 12:39 PM #36
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Re: So who's contributed the most out of the rookie class this year??
Hey Cole if we drafted Bowser and knowing we had Judon then why draft Bowser?
right now neither Peanut or Correa can play beside Mosley so why Bowser is not there? or even coming in on 3rd and longs and pass rushing..oh lawd this sound like correa 2.0 lol I'm not doing this again.
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