Sit or stand debate Part 69? Charlotte ugly scene may change your mind

**Mista T** · 10-13-2017, 03:59 PM

I haven't seen a recent update to the ongoing decade long old argument about standing vs sitting stadium argument here, so here's to stir the pot.

In summary: "real" football fans stand up, at will, to support the Ravens. Generally oblivious to those behind them, and sometimes don't care even when asked to sit to stop blocking their view. "Sitters" bitch about standers blocking their view, often preferring to bitch than join the fun of standing. Hybrids stand on 3rd downs and goal line stands, only, or to celebrate TD's or INT's. Personally, I stand during 3rd down or goal line huddles, then sit when the huddle breaks to prevent disturbing those behind.

Stand vs. sit got ugly last night in Charlotte:

The man standing suddenly punches the man sitting in the face.

.... the man and woman were standing for the entire game and the man sitting behind them complained that they were obstructing his view.

.... Both men were wearing Panthers gear.

The standing perpetrator has been id'd and will likely be banished from the stadium and face legal charges.

While the vast majority of standers don't pummel their fellow fans at Ravens games, this incident demonstrates how differences in fan etiquette can deteriorate into violence (especially at booze-assisted night games). I believe that sitters take precedence over standers by the Ravens "Fan Credo", which states:

Our goals are:

Fellow fans who celebrate the Ravens and the NFL experience, but who do not interfere with other fans enjoyment of the game.

I don't like the strict imposition of kindergarten rules or the Nanny State ruining my fun, but I prefer to see better behavior from Baltimore standers to preclude instances such as the ugly incident in Charlotte.

**Greg** · 10-13-2017, 04:06 PM

If the guy in front of me stands, I stand, if he sits I sit unless everybody behind me is standing.

Standing the whole game is rude to the people behind you.

**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 10-13-2017, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

If the guy in front of me stands, I stand, if he sits I sit unless everybody behind me is standing.

Standing the whole game is rude to the people behind you.

Pretty much. It's basic common sense and common courtesy.

**leachisabeast** · 10-13-2017, 04:20 PM

Nothing compared to football games over here hahaha

**Ravenswintitle** · 10-13-2017, 04:20 PM

It was a Panthers fan sucker punching an Eagles fan. Video all over Twitter. He has been identified and will be prosecuted.

**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 10-13-2017, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

It was a Panthers fan sucker punching an Eagles fan. Video all over Twitter. He has been identified and will be prosecuted.

It was a young adult hitting an older guy too.

Just very unnecessary.

**BcRaven** · 10-13-2017, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

It was a Panthers fan sucker punching an Eagles fan. Video all over Twitter. He has been identified and will be prosecuted.

I'm glad. There's no reason for that kind of behavior... Bc

**The Fanatic** · 10-13-2017, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

If the guy in front of me stands, I stand, if he sits I sit unless everybody behind me is standing.

Standing the whole game is rude to the people behind you.

That's pretty much how I roll. Of course there's instances where the people in front of me are standing and the ones behind me are sitting and I don't know what the hell to do.

**ravens82** · 10-13-2017, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven

It was a young adult hitting an older guy too.

Just very unnecessary.

They were both Panthers fans apparently:

https://deadspin.com/panthers-fan-su...man-1819436354

**The Fanatic** · 10-13-2017, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteNorthRaven

It was a young adult hitting an older guy too.

Just very unnecessary.

"Adult" would be heavily reaching here. Same goes for the female that was apparently with him.

**BcRaven** · 10-13-2017, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Fanatic

That's pretty much how I roll. Of course there's instances where the people in front of me are standing and the ones behind me are sitting and I don't know what the hell to do.

Fan, here's my "old man" solution : I gently tap the guy in front of me and say, "I'll buy you a beer if you sit down." If he still balks, I add a hot dog and that usually does the trick

I come home a little poorer, but my (wrinkled) face is intact... Bc