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10-02-2017, 08:31 PM #73
Re: Harbs has lost this team
[QUOTE=Goode05;1311696]Yesterday they kneeled before the anthem and then stood for it what r u talking about
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Sent from my ASUS_Z00TD using TapatalkLast edited by HbgPARavenfan; 10-02-2017 at 10:29 PM.
Burn it down
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10-02-2017, 11:00 PM #74
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You are spot on. I do disagree about Cam though. Cam was the right man for the job in 2008. I think he just didn't evolve enough to stay the man for the job. The players changed and out grew him and he didn't adjust. Harbaugh's failure was realizing it a season to late.
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10-03-2017, 12:52 AM #75Regular 1st Stringer
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"Lost" is probably the correct word. Let's ask the next question: Who did he lose it to? Put differently: Who has ownership of this team? Suggs? Flacco? Weddle? (Steve Smith?)
A quiet tenant -- possession but not ownership.
A dutiful onsite handyman -- reliable, has possession, knows what the owner wants, but is not the owner.
An absentee landlord -- passively collects rent, doesn't much care about the property.
An entrepreneur developer -- sees the potential, puts in the sweat equity, scrimps and saves to make capital improvements, looks for investors who buy-in.
Throughout Harbaugh's tenure he has, to his credit, done a good job of ridding the team of the absentee-landlord type player. Michael Huff comes to mind. But when it comes to the entrepreneur owner -- we've had to import those players. Boldin, Smith, Weddle -- finished products brought in to lead by example. But no (few) homegrown stakeholder i.e. Ben Cartwright, Ponderosa owner.
Instead, it's been quiet tenants and dutiful handymen. Role players like Justin Bannan, Lawrence Guy, Corey Graham, Josh Wilson, and Paul Kruger are the home-grown or imported quiet tenants: short timers who just filled a role. As for the dutiful handymen: Jimmy Smith, Lardarius Webb, Rick Wagner, CJ Mosley, and (sadly, so it would seem) Joe Flacco. They care. They do their job. They are good at their job. But they seem to lack that something extra. There's an edge that's missing. Maybe that edge comes from knowing you are a superior talent. Perhaps those players don't talk the talk because they don't think they can walk the walk.
Make no mistake about it, this team has been decimated by injuries. Yanda's loss is probably the proverbial bridge-too-far. They likely won't be able to sustain a running game. Without a running game they probably can't play the complementary football they were hoping a revitalized defense (and defensive identity) would allow.
Perhaps they were hoping that a heavy investment in defense would create an attitude, a dominating attitude, and with it they would have or develop dominating personalities. But I don't think that's going to happen this year. Moreover, I question whether it's in Harbaugh's ability to nurture and develop players with that kind of personality.
Want them? Yes.
Import them? Yes.
Grow them at home? I...I don't know.
So, has he lost the team? I kind of hope so because I want to see who fills the vacuum.
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Ugh. Regardless of whether they were nice INTS they were still both brutal inadvisable throws that never should have left his hand. Reaching real hard on that one, as current Flacco defenders must.
I really really hope he turns it around but absolving him of his piss poor play so far is getting silly around here
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Palladin is spot on imo. Points 2 and 4 are the biggest problems that are directly tied to Harbaugh. His hiring of staff has been atrocious since 2011, save for one year of Kubiak. And 4 is probably my biggest gripe, they keep sticking rookies in the wrong spots because there’s some dwindling veteran in the way at their natural position. Jensen should have taken over for Zuttah last year. The Correa thing is dumb as hell. Kruger was never given a shot until his last year. There’s so many examples, it’s been a constant problem with Harbaugh and I think it’s negatively affected the way the picks have been able to develop.
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10-03-2017, 06:28 AM #78Pro Bowl Poster
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Time to get us some JIM BOB COTTER
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10-03-2017, 10:31 AM #79Pro Bowl Poster
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Thanks gang!
I usually do not write long analyses on these threads and just put up snarky jokes for amusement. However, when I do put up analyses of the Ravens stuff I try to keep out the emotions and try to evaluate the situation on the facts presented. I have the experience. I'm a retired Federal auditor/analyst and to do it properly you have to look at facts and not just assume something!
Everyone has a shelf life on ability (even the Patriots' BB).
Harbs shelf life on the Ravens is about done!
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10-03-2017, 10:35 AM #80
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playing the CEO monday presser right now, he annoys me.
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